Candidate’s call questioned

Mayoral candidate Max Mason's challenge over Tauranga City Council's handling of the civic options proposal is being knocked back by the councillors civic heart steering committee's Gail McIntosh and Bev Edlin.

Max, whose mayoral candidacy is supported by the Civic Amenities Group principles Carrus Corp developer Paul Adams, valuation expert and company director Graeme Horsley and Sharp Tudhope Lawyers partner John Gordon, says the Tauranga Civic Options Proposal is a classic case of council failing to listen to the public, and doing what it intended all along.


Max Mason wants the council to come up with a complete plan.

The Civic Amenities Group wants to not only build a new civic centre, it also wants a stadium on The Domain.

Gail McIntosh says Max wants everything planned out, while the council is taking a staged approach to the civic heart proposal so the public can have input at every stage - and so steps are taken as and when the ratepayers can afford them.

The council is first replacing the council's civic administration block before going to the public about a museum or a performing arts center.

Bev Edlin says getting the office block up and running is most important for the city and the council staff.

'He's (Max) right in that we need to get it right for the public. It's just that if we go out and say ‘this is what we think they need', is not the way to go.

'This is what we think now. Let's test it and make sure it's right, so we are most probably taking an extra step there and making sure it is what everybody wants.”

The council has determined what is needed by talking to the community and is for now seeking only to build the staff accommodation and give further consideration to the others; the library, museum, and performance centre, says Bev.

'And therefore we will just make sure we are getting it right so we know what we finally build is what the city really wants. So we are at the early stages of that process. Do we need a museum? Do we need a performing arts centre? Most say ‘It's great, but do we need it? Right today?'

'It's about doing it once and doing it right,” says Bev.

Max says he's read the 169 pages of submissions and says there's a world of difference between what the public want and what the council has delivered.

Submitters provided a whole array of great ideas about how to create a vibrant and appealing city centre but the council proposes a plan which has only ten per cent of what the public asked for, says Max.

He says the public wants a well thought out plan of what their city centre will look like. Instead the council has delivered the office building it wanted all along and thrown in a few feasibility studies of amenities to make it look good.

'If they can plan infrastructure decades ahead why can't we have a vision of the city centre.”

Max wants the public to send the council a clear message to scale back the cost of the council building, include ‘real amenities' to revitalise the city centre, develop an integrated plan of what the city centre will look like in the future - and to get the private sector more involved in the planning and delivery.

The programme business case, the powerpoint presentation and concept drawings on on the city council website.

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21 comments

Civic Centre

Posted on 27-06-2016 13:12 | By Denny G

Let's keep the debate going !!!1


Re: Civic Centre Options (CCO)

Posted on 27-06-2016 14:07 | By Pamaxx

Max Mason has a point, the CCO report states, "council's preference is for TCC to fund and own the new administration building", which impacts on rates whereas the community want to see all the proposed buildings included in the CBD plan and understand how it will all be funded. There is no requirement for TCC to and the administration building. TCC's role is to manage the city, whether they need to own their premises (at ratepayers expense) is open to debate. Max Lewis, Mt Maunganui


No Coincidence

Posted on 27-06-2016 14:45 | By Confused

Mr Mason is dead right. Does anyone actually believe that the 3 existing council buildings are all so moldy that they can't be repaired? How convenient.


Reverse the plan

Posted on 27-06-2016 14:56 | By LovinSummer

Why do the Council offices have to be built first? The staff are operating sufficiently in temporary locations. Build the public amenities first so we have something to do / go to in the city.


If.....

Posted on 27-06-2016 15:11 | By Jimmy Ehu

the Civil Amenaties Group want it, they must pay for it!!!, so..... 1 X developers "puppet" retires and up springs a automatic replacement, just more items of grandeur here, a waterfront stadium?, medication is available Max, the "Domain" stadia idea I do like, and just as an aside...... due to mould and ventilation issues a Auckland school is being rebuilt for 14.3 million, our flash proposed "edifice" budgeted at 65 million?, go figure that one.


hugox

Posted on 27-06-2016 15:19 | By hugox

You need a vision for the whole before you start. Piecemeal development would be disastrous. Anybody been to Brisbane and seen the beach area beside the river in the town centre - great idea to bring families and life back into the town


@Pamaxx

Posted on 27-06-2016 16:07 | By Annalist

Max and the developers action group seem to want a rugby stadium and a museum and arts centre etc. The ratepayers will have to pay for all this whether by lease or outright payment. I think do the essential building first then think about the other stuff if the public are prepared to pay.


Kindly message to Max

Posted on 27-06-2016 16:56 | By The author of this comment has been removed.

How do you eat an elephant? In small bites.


How about Max listening to public

Posted on 27-06-2016 17:13 | By R E Frayne

Most people I know don't want Council to spend money of a rugby stadium, or a museum at this stage. Let the Max and his developers pay for it and take the risk if they want it. Hands off ratepayers money


@ Jimmy Ehu

Posted on 27-06-2016 17:21 | By Crash test dummies

Not only building it, but to pay all the running costs for the next 100 years or so.


Mischief a-plenty?

Posted on 27-06-2016 17:29 | By Crash test dummies

The full agenda of the TCC Councilor meetings last year has yet to be revealed, perhaps the cracks are starting to appear, max maybe a nice guy and all that but in end result he is simply going to be someone's puppet and that means a free ride into the ratepayer pockets full noise for a group that perhaps have motives that are not necessarily good for ratepayers as a whole. One can but hope that ratepayers see it all for what it really is.


Max

Posted on 27-06-2016 17:59 | By overit

I want a holt to rising rates. Tauranga is in an predicament-fast growing and insufficient infrastructure. I cant see "pie in the sky' ideas being practical yet.


Oh dear

Posted on 27-06-2016 22:56 | By astex

Once again I must ask why they do not simply fix the old building for around the $7M they said it would cost. Even if it ends up only worth around that amount surely it is better, in the current situation, than chucking $75 and more into the debt hole. Oh! I want the new council to be MY puppet so I now know 1 person not to vote for.


@ iknow

Posted on 28-06-2016 10:30 | By Crash test dummies

They want the nice, nice, fresh and wonderful, never mind the cost, the obvious here is that TCC has rocketing debt again and no sign of an end to it. The officials simply want to have what they want and the heck with the cost, the obvious and sensible answer is a refurbishment, so they want the opposite. NB: I think we actually now have two not to vote for.


Election time

Posted on 28-06-2016 17:06 | By Kenworthlogger

We need a clean sweep here. No one has learned from last time.


Puppet On A String

Posted on 28-06-2016 20:18 | By Jitter

Max Mason is a puppet of the Civic Amenities Group and will say and do as he is told. He was all talk when CEO of the Chamber of Commerce. Another parasite organisation on the back of Tauranga ratepayers. Civic Amenities Group also want TCC and Western Bay Council to amalgamate so they can push their projects through.


@ Kenworthlogger

Posted on 30-06-2016 15:39 | By Crash test dummies

That is now obvious isn't it, 100% clean out is required. That includes any puppets that may pop up as clearly so here.


JAFFA

Posted on 04-07-2016 08:25 | By Kenworthlogger

Yes it is but will the people that vote do it? Hopefully. If you vote the same way you will get more of the same.... Simple really.


@ Kenworthlogger

Posted on 07-07-2016 14:52 | By Crash test dummies

If they become aware then the change will be made.


museum

Posted on 14-07-2016 22:15 | By papakiwi

Gail McIntosh where are you coming from. You said that The council is first replacing the council's civic administration block before going to the public about a museum or a performing arts center. Why is the council wanting $300,000 to do planning for a museum NOW at the same time they are looking at the new Amenities building. Typical, it seems as soon as you are elected to Council then it is a policy of spending spending spending and just pass the cost to the ratepayers. I would be more happy if the Council Members would take personal ownership if the final cost of the civic buildings which are estimated at $68 million and they coughed up any shortfall. Yeah right they would just blame everybody else for their ineptitude and poor judgement


@ papakiwi

Posted on 22-07-2016 11:23 | By Crash test dummies

All that said is right except that they are meant to consult firstly on the Civic center then each other item as you have referred to.


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