Grassy threat to project

An attempt to save a triangle patch of grass could cost Tauranga City Council hundreds of thousands of dollars and delay the completion of the waterfront stair by a whole season, councillors have been warned.

The issue of the 35m2 section on the eastern end of the grassy triangle surrounding the Hairy Maclary statues was raised during discussion of the $3.5 million waterfront stair, jetty and pontoon project by the council's Monitoring Committee on Monday.


The completed design, with the grass clipped. Supplied Image.

Mayor Stuart Crosby wanted to know why 35m2 of the Hairy Maclary backdrop was going to be removed.

The designer LandLAB clipped the grass area to free up space around the turn on the promenade beside the jetty, says project leader Morgan Jones.

The area is beside the turn of the promenade and the access to the jetty and pontoon. There are restrictions affecting the design and the time.

An almost immediate start is required to have construction completed by December 20, otherwise construction will stop over summer and won't resume until Easter 2017.

Simply moving the steps won't work either. It will expand the area to be reclaimed to the point where a resource consent will probably be required, says Morgan.

Not only will that add to the delay, it will also add significantly to the cost.

Work must start in two to three weeks, but making design changes will take four to six weeks, which would then flow on to decision made on the project itself.

Around $522,000 has been spent to date on design, engineering reports, tendering and consenting costs.

The committee members decided to receive the report, which includes the completed Access to Water design, while directing staff to speak to LandLAB about a ‘minor change to the amount of grass' before council makes its final decision.

The cost of a re-design might cost $15-20,000, says councillor Steve Morris.

'There will always be costs when we speak to our designers,” says city transformation manager Jaine Lovell-Gadd.

The $3.25 million budget for the project was reported and endorsed by councillors in December 2015. The Streetscape, Waterfront and Open Space fund has been adjusted in the 2015-2025 Long Term Plan to reflect this spending in the 2016/17 financial year.

LandLAB is the design lead and Beca is providing engineering services. Their cost estimate for the construction of the tidal stairs, pier and pontoon was provided in June was 3.25m based on the design then being 90 per cent complete. The sum includes a contingency of $360,000.

A Registration of Interest was developed by staff and LandLAB with input from the Public Art Advisory Group and independent advisors from the artistic community, calling for proposals for public art to be integrated into the project.

The evaluation and appointment of an artist will be worked through following the close of registrations. The successful proposal will be brought to council in due course for formal approval in accordance with the Public Art Policy.

The report in Monday's committee agenda says the overall design intent and vision of the project, as provided by lead designer LandLAB, is to reinforce this area as the active water's edge destination at the intersection of the north-south waterfront promenade and the east-west Wharf St and Masonic Park 'civic axis'.

The combination of pier, wharf and stairs stitch together land and water to create a defined and enclosed 'blue room' which reinforces Tauranga's spiritual and physical connection to the harbour.

The design has already been modified following discussions with the Licence Parties who include; Tangata Whenua, Tauranga City Centre businesses/retailers, Event organisers, Water space users (including vessels working from Fisherman's Wharf, Mooring owners and water sport organisations), The University of Waikato Marine Research Centre.

You may also like....

45 comments

WTF

Posted on 19-07-2016 11:47 | By overit

A resource consent of $522,000.So the games begin, watch closely folks as you get milked.


Unbelievable!!

Posted on 19-07-2016 11:58 | By Mackka

Keep the grass and tell the designers where to stick their design! Resource consent will cost about $522,000 - how in hell can they arrive at such a ridiculous figure?? And a re-design cost of $15 - $20,000! For a line on a piece of paper! What planet do these apes live on?


Mark my words

Posted on 19-07-2016 12:19 | By Hot stuff

This will be another horrendous over run in costings , just wait and see. The whole thing is a total waste of rate payers money


to heck with the waterfront

Posted on 19-07-2016 12:26 | By flyingtoaster

Spend the money on helping rectify the current housing crisis. I am sure the new waterfront project will be quite beautiful, but there will be a public outcry when the rising numbers of homeless start sleeping along the waterfront.


Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!

Posted on 19-07-2016 12:46 | By Jimmy Ehu

And more of the same, repeated repeatedly!!!!


BUREAUCRATIC ROT

Posted on 19-07-2016 13:48 | By jeancraven@kinect.co.nz

What rubbish - get real, either do it or don't. Stop messing around.


Water Front

Posted on 19-07-2016 13:56 | By Denny G

Its a "nice-to-have" but is it essential ? Are there more urgent and more worthy projects that need this ratepayers money ? And "Re-Design ?" Is this another case of designers "running" the council ?


Lies and damn lies

Posted on 19-07-2016 15:01 | By sobeit

Remember how this lot promised to be better than the last lot ? Now the tail well and truly is wagging the dog


SAuggest Councillors look for new jobs after the elections

Posted on 19-07-2016 15:14 | By ROCCO

The cost of $3.5million is obscene and should never have been approved. It is an unwarrantrd nothingness that will add zilch to the Waterfront.Why wasn't the grassed area near the Hairy Mclary dingbats debacle factored in before project floated and approved.This sort of bullsup happens every time and TCC ratepayers are well and truly over it.Money squandering on pies in the sky.WOFTAM


Settle Guys

Posted on 19-07-2016 15:19 | By Gigilo

Lets see the resource consent plus the redesign and sundries say 550K less the contingency sum of 360K funds required only 190K, we will call it 200K. We only need 200K to get this baby off the ground. Or put it off until next year. Sounds reasonable.


Best Idea

Posted on 19-07-2016 16:49 | By nerak

is to can the whole thing. After all, it's yet another Crosby in lights legacy. Agree with Mackka, what planet do these apes live on? Their figures beggar belief.


Already

Posted on 19-07-2016 17:12 | By astex

A $500k cost overrun already and it hasn't even started. What can possibly go wrong next? And these financial experts want us to trust them with a $70M civic center sham?


Question

Posted on 19-07-2016 18:24 | By Accountable

How do we the, ratepayers of Tauranga, stop our staff, whom we the ratepayer employs, from wasting so much of our hard earned money? We can't blame our Councillors as they really are being controlled by the bullies and blackmailers within Council staff and this story is proof of that. There must be a way of stopping this nonsense but how?


hmmm

Posted on 19-07-2016 22:40 | By flyingtoaster

Do u think $5m might help solve the housing problem? what about $10m? Fix the problems we already have FIRST! While the aesthetic look, of Tauranga is important, the welfare of the people in Tauranga is imperative


never mind the grass

Posted on 19-07-2016 23:49 | By kinacat

I like the Jetty and Pontoon design. Might be a great fishing spot for the kids? I think the stairs look really good. But! imagine the safety issue's.


Good grief...

Posted on 20-07-2016 07:35 | By Me again

How Childish is this lot. You can't lick my lolly pop if you don't give me your dolly. Stick a fli.... palm tree there and be done.!!


Fenced Off

Posted on 20-07-2016 08:06 | By Jitter

Isn't an area such as required to be fenced off like residential swimming pools etc ? It is not the council making decisions as they have already been made by the beaurocrats when the proposal goes to the council. By the time this so called beautification project is completed the final cost will have far outrun any benefit. The concept is good but the whole thing is unneccessary. We are neither Auckland or Wellington so lets stop trying to be like them. Why do we have to copy other cities ? Is this project going to bring thousands of additional visitors to Tauranga like the Hairy McLary project was going to do ? Yeah right !


Jitter

Posted on 20-07-2016 11:05 | By Kenworthlogger

When will people like you stop moaning about having to fence residential swimming pools. This is NOT a residential swimming pool. Get over it!


@Kenworthlogger....

Posted on 20-07-2016 13:16 | By Jimmy Ehu

You are correct, it is a public swimming pool, so explain the difference again please?, as when is a swimming pool not a swimming pool?, and why should there be different criteria, between public and private?, yep still laughing at the continuous ineptitude, I would instead of concrete steps make a "lagoon" along the lines of South Bank I the Brisbane CBD, and build a " Donaldsons Dairy" on its grass surrounds for the dogs!, concrete and water does not work with crowds and many a injury claim will result, but hey no one listened when I put my plan in a few years ago, originality is non existent in Tauranga when you have "brain dead" puppets with no life skills doing the planning!!!


To Kenworthblogger

Posted on 20-07-2016 15:57 | By Jitter

I was not moaning about having to fence residential swimming pools. I was trying to make the point that if it is necessary to fence these pools then public amenities like this should also be fenced for the safety of everyone. "Kinacat" is right about the safety issues.If you have kids fishing/swimming there without supervision and at least some sort of safety barrier you are asking for trouble.


Jimmy and Jitter

Posted on 20-07-2016 18:04 | By Kenworthlogger

So Are you suggesting we should fence the whole coastline of NZ? That would be silly. Most people understand that if they have a swimming pool in their backyard it must be fenced. What part of that do you not understand?


@kenworth logger

Posted on 20-07-2016 18:50 | By Bop man

Im right with you on this its not a pool its the fricking harbor is the council meant to fence the whole thing, if this area is fenced then whats next Pilot bay should be fenced and the main beach, the below is just people moaning for the sake of moaning. My may concern is the cost of this project will my rates go up again I can barely afford them now... council needs to keep to running the city and not doing these nice haves.


Safety First

Posted on 20-07-2016 18:59 | By Mackka

Just needs one little kid to slip and hit its head on the concrete - be knocked out and drowned before anyone realises - then the whole sorry, expensive scheme folds up!! Then we won't - but we can say 'Told you so!" Silly, silly, silly !!


Grassy threat to project

Posted on 20-07-2016 19:27 | By The Beaten Generation

They need to stop smoking it before decision making


Stairway to heaven?

Posted on 21-07-2016 12:23 | By Crash test dummies

But it is going the wrong way


The stairs?

Posted on 21-07-2016 12:24 | By Crash test dummies

The waterway immediately in front of the proposed stairs is deep and a strong current is always ripping through, I wonder if TCC has factored in a life guard post in the budget, and lifeguards to?


@ The Beaten Generation

Posted on 22-07-2016 10:48 | By Crash test dummies

What? The soggy sea lettuce or the grass when green?


Re safety concerns

Posted on 23-07-2016 13:59 | By astex

It should not be difficult in this day and age to add some sort of "in water" structure to reduce the tidal affects to make it safer.


To Kenworthblogger

Posted on 23-07-2016 17:02 | By Jitter

If one small group could have their way the whole coast would be fenced off and you and I would be charged to go onto a beach anywhere.


@ iknow

Posted on 24-07-2016 10:22 | By Crash test dummies

Yes they could easily do that, the most common way is via a weir such as at the outlet of the Rotorua River, that provides stability to the water level. However it does rely on water circulation, without that the water inside will be come stagnant. That is even more of an issue for the last three years due to the seepage into the Welcome Bay area from the Sewerage plant.


leave the grass alone

Posted on 24-07-2016 23:50 | By Crash test dummies

Get rid of the Mchairy things.


No fence - NO steps!

Posted on 25-07-2016 10:20 | By Mackka

No-one is suggesting that the steps be fenced - how stupid would that be?! What we are trying to get through is that there should never be steps there in the first place! It is a stupid, dangerous design!


@ Mackka

Posted on 25-07-2016 12:42 | By Crash test dummies

Agreed, it is very hard to see how possibly this spend up has nay merit or use (typical TCC activity of course) although above water will look ok, the tidal area and below will be a trap for the unwary, dirt, muck and grime from start to finish is how it will be. If one makes it into the water (without injury/harm) then the depth and current will get you anyway. This has about the usefulness of a Civic Center to house yet more officials.


Overit

Posted on 25-07-2016 18:50 | By overit

It beggars belief that TCC got resource consent for such a flawed plan. Its like they have a huge amount of money to discard on hair brained ideas.


Grassy Knole?

Posted on 26-07-2016 00:21 | By Crash test dummies

That has about as much suspicious history as the Hairy thingy that arrived pre-maturely not so long ago, if a decision has to be made then leave the grass and get rid of the other thingys.


Grassy Knoll?

Posted on 26-07-2016 20:31 | By Crash test dummies

The victim is TCC ratepayers, ambushed and slaughters from afar and aloof sniper spot yet again. The names vanish into time, the debt does not.


BopMan and Jitter

Posted on 27-07-2016 12:26 | By Kenworthlogger

Yep totally agree with you fellas...


Kenworthlogger, BopMan, Jitter

Posted on 28-07-2016 12:03 | By Crash test dummies

That is coming now, the fence maybe is not physically there but it is there and deliberately being expanded and extended to all beaches, it is just a matter of time.


Next

Posted on 30-07-2016 10:52 | By Crash test dummies

The pink terraces, right along side


Pink Terrances

Posted on 30-07-2016 10:57 | By Crash test dummies

So the cunning plan here would be to create the pink and white terrenes just like right there next to the white ones. This is a marvelous addition to the massive world attractions already there for the droves of tourists pumping through Tauranga on a daily basis. This will add huge variety to: The Grassy Knoll, the Hairy lot and the random water fountain thingy? How possible will he Tauranga airport cope with the need for the next generation plane after the A380 that will arrive on the hour for these world renowned tourist attractions ....


Jaffa

Posted on 04-08-2016 08:19 | By Kenworthlogger

And guess who would have to pay for the fence? Lol


@ Kenworthlogger

Posted on 04-08-2016 16:15 | By Crash test dummies

Ratepayers and at least three + times anyone else I am sure. Just think of it as more debt coming ...


OSH

Posted on 07-08-2016 14:47 | By Raewyn

Where are the Health & Safety People, this is a no Brainer waste of money which I am sure will get fenced off because it will become too dangerous


@ Raewyn

Posted on 10-08-2016 15:20 | By Crash test dummies

The pool fencing people are in the same building, so they will exempt themselves like many other nefarious things that go on within.


Cotton wool syndrome

Posted on 18-08-2016 08:55 | By penguin

This whole furore smacks of people needing to be saved from themselves. I agree with the threads relating to our nation being surrounded by water and the absurdity of fencing off all the beaches, rivers and lakes. Council/harbour authorities would need to start with prohibiting people fishing and jumping off Salisbury wharf/pontoon. The water is deep and has a strong current. As for children being safe, how about this for a concept - parents taking responsibility for them? Its scary, the prospect of living in a nanny state. May as well stay in bed - and thats not entirely safe, either!


Leave a Comment


You must be logged in to make a comment.