Support for iwi in Crown battle

Treaty claims by a Hauraki iwi collective on Tauranga harbour have angered Ngai Te Rangi. File Photo.

Treaty claims by a Hauraki iwi collective on Tauranga Harbour have angered Ngai Te Rangi, and drawn support from an Auckland iwi.

Representatives of Ngati Whatua Orakei travelled to Tauranga this week to hui with iwi from Tauranga Moana, Waikato, and Tamaki Makaurau to discuss the government's approach to settling overlapping Treaty claims.

In December, Ngai Te Rangi criticised the government when they became aware a Treaty settlement agreement had been initialled with a Hauraki iwi collective.

They allege the Crown's settlement with the Hauraki iwi collective will allow Hauraki iwi rights to Tauranga Moana (Harbour), which effectively 'trashes and recolonises Tauranga tikanga”.

Ngai Te Rangi kaumatua Hauata Palmer says the deal was done by stealth and disadvantages Tauranga iwi.

'We are putting Bill English on notice that we will no longer accept Chris Finlayson's propensity to hand out sweet deals to some and push through arrangements based on invented histories,” says Hauata.

'It must stop. This is no way for the Crown to be engaging with iwi. He has gone too far, and from Auckland, Waikato, through the Bay of Plenty and beyond, iwi and hapu are meeting, organising and preparing to defeat this insulting behaviour.”

Ngati Whatua Orakei trustee Ngarimu Blair says the Auckland-based hapu is facing similar issues as those occurring in Tauranga.

'We fully support Ngai Te Rangi and will work with them to ensure their mana is upheld. It's deeply concerning that the Government is taking the same flawed approach in Tauranga as it is in Tamaki Makaurau,” says Ngarimu.

'The way Treaty claims are currently being settled is pitting iwi against iwi and at times hapu against their own iwi, and that is clearly wrong.

'Unfortunately, we are also seeing some iwi taking advantage of the Crown's approach and overreaching into areas where their interests are not strong.

'Surely the mana that Tauranga iwi have over their moana should be protected. To recognise an iwi collective from up the coast as having the same level of mana is disrespectful.”

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18 comments

The Treaty

Posted on 13-01-2017 07:53 | By surfsup

We are putting Bill English on notice that we will no longer accept Chris Finlayson's propensity to hand out sweet deals to some and push through arrangements based on invented histories, says Hauata. - MMMMM interesting view of the treaty process, some would say the "Invented histories" statement pretty much sums up the whole of the treaty process.


Problem is surfsup,

Posted on 13-01-2017 10:22 | By R. Bell

your version of "invented histories" comes with no evidence whatsoever. The treaty process is going as well as can be expected given the complexity of crown procedures. Some would say invented histories are a pastime of those who oppose, for the sake of opposing. Robin Bell.


mass fraud in NZ continues

Posted on 13-01-2017 13:08 | By Captain Sensible

It is common knowledge that the Waitangi Tribunal are not interested in the truth. Sevaral "researchers" have become whistle blowers on this...yet Finlayson ( we all know his history should insist he has nothing to do with the 'job' he is in now) will believe almost anything his maori chums tell him. Surely when one whistleblower exposes the rort, there should be an investigation....but this is NZ where all things maori are elevated to the level of "if you say anything to the contrary, you must be racist"......oh the irony!!!


Just saying..................

Posted on 13-01-2017 14:25 | By Gigilo

If I claimed to be a Maori I would have to hang my head in shame, that as a race we had been paid enough for every single one to be a millionaire, by the remaining New Zealanders. Yet the majority of my race (or part thereof) live in poverty. This is a damn disgrace and the gravy train needs to be pulled into a siding immediately and decommissioned.


Treaty

Posted on 13-01-2017 14:41 | By Politically Incorrect

I couldn't care less either way about the treaty, things were said, land was taken, compensation is coming in the form of settlements. All good, fair enough. What's saddening, however, is that the very people this is meant for are now trying to out-Crown the Crown for historical actions of a bygone era and rort each other, turning it in to a "land grab" (even if it's for mana or customary rights). Just remember, these settlements and all associated costs don't come out of the Queen's pocket, they come from you and me, Joe Taxpayer. You might be entitled to it, but I'm paying for it and I'm sure as eggs not a 160 year old land thief, so one could argue that this in itself is a crime. Play fair, claim what's yours and be happy, otherwise you're ripping us all off.


@ Politically Incorrect

Posted on 13-01-2017 15:32 | By Captain Sensible

Have a read of some real history ( for example..."The Great Divide" which although it has been lambasted by maori because they don't like it, they have been unable to prove any of it wrong....that's why they don't like it!) and see just how badly the NZ taxpayers have been ripped off for decades. So much of these claims are false...like the Parihaka "holocaust" where nobody lost their life!! This could only happen in NZ. They are even teaching in schools the total myth that white settlers kept maori slaves. A total 100% lie of course.


Politically Incorrect,

Posted on 14-01-2017 08:11 | By R. Bell

you should know that the Great Divide was written by Ian Wishart,not an historian but a journalist.In an interview with R.N.Z. HE OPENLY ADMITTED that he does not always believe what he writes. You seem to have an open mind, don't let captain sensible close it. You ask Maori to "play fair" which in itself is ironic considering how unfairly they were treated, leading to the current situation. You are not a 168 yr old land thief,but you have benefited directly or indirectly from the theft. This issue is a direct result of the crown drawing arbitrary lines, with no consideration to Maori input. Gigilo, you need to go and do some proper maths. Robin Bell.


@R. Bell

Posted on 14-01-2017 09:41 | By Captain Sensible

Robin, that book was carefully researched from documents, transcripts, journals, letters, and all available evidence that was written at the time, not the made up stuff from the last few years where maori grievers invent history...like the "Parihaka holocaust" ( where nobody died). Please tell us where Ian went wrong. Where is your evidence to correct these so called errors?


@Robin

Posted on 14-01-2017 13:56 | By Politically Incorrect

I could argue that Maori have also benefited greatly from the theft, but I'm not here to argue who is right, who is wrong and who's benefited from what. Invasion, theft, or even just being ripped off - call it what you will - was a part of the history of humanity and happened all over the world, always to someones detriment. In my home country alone, 10's of thousands were murdered and lands taken over centuries of war, by force, with no compensation to this date. In NZ, over 160 years later, we are paying for the wrong doings of people long since dead. That's injustice Robin, just like it was injustice when foreigners initially took land from Maori. This has nothing to do with race, Maori are entitled to the compensation under the treaty, but they should appreciate who suffers now because of it.


Politically incorrect,

Posted on 14-01-2017 16:11 | By R. Bell

I understand your comments and agree with the early portion. However your assumption that these crimes are all 160 yrs old is unfortunately incorrect. Until very recent times Maori were dispossessed by such legal means as the Public works act, Education act, railways, local bodies etc. Little or no compensation paid. Such behaviour not only delivers economic misery but the kind of social upheaval we all suffer from. You claim you now suffer the distress caused by settlements, if you do the figures you will find your suffering is massively exaggerated. Finally, Maori do appreciate the settlement process at least the ones I know do. Robin Bell.


Not so captain,

Posted on 14-01-2017 16:27 | By R. Bell

the word holocaust has, like many words a number of meanings. Until it was used to describe the Jewish holocaust its meaning was generally accepted as "totally consumed by fire". Hence its use by Tariana Turia in describing the atrocity carried out by colonial forces at Parihaka. Forces that attacked a peaceful protest by unarmed Maori, sick and tired of the constant and devious methods of theft carried out by, you know who. All able bodied men jailed without trial. All homes destroyed by fire, crops and foodstores destroyed. Women and children left to starve. What would you call it "captain" ? Robin Bell.


Robin

Posted on 15-01-2017 02:51 | By Kenworthlogger

Makes me laugh. Always in the minority trying to claim he speaks for the majority. This story is about Maori ripping each other off. How does Robin try to re write that and explain what his mates have always done but now cry fowl over cause maori are trashing each other. Had to happen when you lie about things. Where is Robins evidence this time? Edited.


@ politically incorrect

Posted on 15-01-2017 07:58 | By Captain Sensible

Be aware that all those grievances that most of us have heard about ad nauseam are fabrications. Maori grievers get paid very well for coming up with them and up until recently, people accepted them as fact. It was only when research was done using real facts ( not the invented stuff from the 1970's and onwards) that it was found that most were not true or half truths ( eg land was confiscated......... as punishment for breaking the law). Also, judging events that happened several hundred years ago, by today's standards is misleading. Maori killed more maori than any other race....yet Kiwis today are expected to pay forever for that!


Maori grievers, invent history

Posted on 15-01-2017 10:36 | By R. Bell

like the " Parihaka Holocaust" (where no one died). Maori did't invent it captain, you try to deny it. A holocaust is anything consumed by fire. Parihaka was consumed by fire, no one died captain because Maori did not resist. As far as teaching children the truth about N.Z. involvement in the Pacific slave trade, whats wrong with that? It happened, its well documented,it is well past the time when self deception and repressed history distorts peoples minds. You are testament to the effect of such practice. Robin Bell.


Kenworthlogger,

Posted on 15-01-2017 13:35 | By R. Bell

I am pleased I make you laugh, someone has to cheer you up. I have never, ever not once claimed to speak for the majority, especially in these columns. The evidence you seek is in the documentation provided by the Waitangi Tribunal. Try educating yourself before trashing others. As for Maori "ripping each other off" wrong again, this is about Tikanga, nothing to do with your god, money. Robin Bell.


Pack Mentality

Posted on 15-01-2017 16:41 | By Mackka

Thank goodness we now have a Prime Minister who has the gumption to call a spade a spade and perhaps put an end to all this codswallop!They are like a pack of wolves fighting over land that is not theirs in the first place. If it wasn't so sickening it would be laughable!


So Robin

Posted on 18-01-2017 16:54 | By Kenworthlogger

Are you saying that this is nothing to do with money so if money is offered that Maori will refuse it? Do you honestly expect any of us to actually believe that?


Kenworthlogger

Posted on 19-01-2017 08:41 | By R. Bell

Why ask questions you don't want an answer to? It makes no more sense than your usual stuff. Robin Bell.


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