Throat-cutting offensive

Re: Time to reign in the haka (The Weekend Sun, June 16).

I was glad to read that I wasn't the only one to find the haka that includes the throat-cutting offensive.

When I made a comment I was told: ‘If I didn't like it to go live in another country'. I have no objection to the original haka, just not this one.

I Stockwell, Tauranga.

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I Stockwell....

Posted on 24-06-2017 17:55 | By groutby

...I haven't got a particular stance in regard to the Haka, (except that it seems to be "done to death" in some situations), but do you actually know if the "original" haka did indeed NOT have a throat cutting gesture at the end?. I guess the earlier All Black haka may well have not included it, but the "actual" original a long time ago?..do you know?..may I call on a historian to clarify please.


Cut throat gesture

Posted on 25-06-2017 14:49 | By waxing

If you don't understand Maori culture, it's best not to comment and certainly not to see things through the eyes of your own culture. In the words of the composer of the "new" All Blacks' haka, Derek Lardelli, from Ngati Porou: "The gesture symbolises the intensity of first-class rugby and the consequences of defeat." In reply to I Stockwell, what do you mean by the "actual" "original" haka? If you mean the All Black original (and very different) one then you see it often alternated with the newer haka which is solely for the All Blacks. But otherwise there is no "original" haka since all iwi had different haka and continue to create different haka still today. Different gestures will be used with the same haka in different situations to portray different meanings.


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