Pedestrians versus diners

Bay of Plenty ratepayers are reclaiming main street footpaths they say have been lost to inconsiderate and profit-grabbing restaurateurs and café owners.

The ratepayers say the footpaths down the main street in Mount Maunganui, and elsewhere, are ‘littered with tables and chairs', are impassable for two way pedestrian traffic at times, and restaurateurs are ‘out of control'.


Congestion on main street – pedestrians versus diners.

'When is a foot path not a foot path?” rails Pitau Road ratepayer Peter Morris. 'When it's a foot path down Maunganui Road. So when did we lose our footpaths to restaurants and cafés?”

'Those businesses should be paying for the right to use footpaths which are owned and maintained by the ratepayer,” insists Susan Broad of Katikati.

But the town hall is staunch – it says the system's working well and it's not a problem because there is no problem.

The council has received 12 complaints in the last 12 months. 'It suggests the issue of café furniture is not a big concern for most people,” says Tauranga City Council bylaw enforcer Stuart Goodman. Complaints are ‘investigated and worked through with businesses'.

So no prosecutions, the restaurateurs flout without fear, and the diners and eateries retain control of the walkways.

'So far there has been no cause for stronger enforcement or prosecution,” says Stuart.

Some restaurants may flout, but Mandy Gillgren, co-owner of Zeytins, says they carefully observe the rules.

'Our external tables have specific places,” says Mandy. 'They never move and we've never had a complaint.” And they've been there for 10 years.

She does admit she has seen congestion up and down the street.

'But we are really aware,” she adds.

However, pedestrians like Peter and Susan want to give the councils cause.

'If ratepayers are being stung for the maintenance of an amenity – the footpath – that they no longer have access to because of café tables and chairs, then there is a problem,” says Susan.

'It doesn't matter where the footpath is.” So this is not a problem peculiar to the Mount.

'I don't think café and restaurant owners respect that a footpath is a footpath first, and then a place for smoking and eating café patrons. They have this attitude of more tables, more people, more profits and they are using our footpaths to do it,” says Susan.

She chimed into the debate after becoming upset on behalf of a local on a mobility scooter.

'The footpath was cluttered with crap - chairs and tables and sandwich boards – and she couldn't get past. I had to move the furniture for her.”

'This just isn't right,” says Susan. With Katikati being 50-to-60 percent retirees and home to fleets of mobility scooters, 'I can put myself there because my old Dad has a mobility scooter.”

When the local council explained to Susan that it was ‘trying to maintain a village atmosphere in Katikati', she scoffed. 'I hate to say it, but Katikati's main strip is starting to look like a third world marketplace. Crowded, cluttered, two dollar shops, and impassable for a large number of its rate-paying residents.”

She has a solution. 'If shop owners choose to use part of Katikati's footpath then it should be regulated, limited, and they should pay for the right.”

Ken Jones is from Bethlehem, but he has made main street Mount Maunganui's problem his problem.

'Often if there are two pedestrians approaching one another from opposite directions outside a café or restaurant, one has to stop and give way,” he says.

'The tables seat four and often people don't sit right up to the table, or they lounge back at the end of their meal which means they're using even more of the footpath.”

But it's a seaside setting – isn't the hustle and bustle and alfresco dining all part of the Mount's ambient charm?

'Sure,” says Ken Jones. 'But it's a footpath after all and a footpath is for pedestrians first and foremost. I am not sure of the bylaws but I suspect there's no enforcement.”

He's right and wrong.

There is no limitation on the number of tables and chairs cafés and restaurants can place on the footpath along the Mount main street so long as they don't obstruct pedestrians.

They're even allowed to put those tables and chairs in front of other businesses if they have the blessing of that business.

The council says there's on-going monitoring to ensure compliance.

But no permit is required, no charge is imposed, and there's no return for the ratepayer.

Ken came from the UK and holidayed in Spain, Italy, and France. 'I love the continental look and feel but their streets are designed for that lifestyle – they are wide. Ours aren't.”

Dunedin City Council is apparently one local authority that has confronted the problem after an outcry from ratepayers.

Care and restaurant owners have to pay for each seat on the street, they can only have so many seats on the footpath, and there is a demarcation line.

Peter believes council's in the Bay ‘hold most of the responsibility for the mess' down our main streets. 'There are few rules governing the use of footpaths for tables and chairs and even less enforcement.”

He says councils, cafés, and restaurants need to respect there is another group of ratepayers who simply want the use of their footpaths. 'We are being denied the use of our own environment,” he adds.

Peter wants to know why they can't make their money without shifting their customers onto the street. And Susan believes the shop premises are the point of trading while the footpath is an access way for pedestrians.

Peter is critical of what he suggests is council inaction. 'The council needs to draw a line. And it needs to ensure that line is not violated.”

And it's a fine line. The TCC's Stuart Goodman wants to maintain the right balance between enhancing the street environment and ensuring foot paths are clear and accessible.

Peter, on the other hand, wants the right to walk unimpeded down his main street without tipping someone's lunch on the footpath or skinning his shins.

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21 comments

Bunch of moaners

Posted on 06-03-2015 11:22 | By Annalist

At last some of our streets have a bit of life in them. But no that's not good enough for the moaners. For goodness sake get a life. The only way mainstreets are going to survive is by having something different to soul-less malls and if that means a bit of clutter, so what!


Pedestrians

Posted on 06-03-2015 11:49 | By spoilerfactory

I had to walk along the strand in a shower of rain, while empty tables took up the space undercover designed original to keep pedestrians dry! give us back our walkway


Outside dining

Posted on 06-03-2015 12:41 | By justsaying

is a lifestyle to be enjoyed, especially in BOP. Our family don't often visit a cafe/restaurant if there is no outside dining available, even in the colder months. Enjoy the ambiance and people watching, very relaxing way to dine and to enjoy the company of family and friends. Street stalls/cafes/restaurants are common in most countries. Outside dining is why NZ is so popular with overseas visitors and the Mount/Tauranga with NZers. Why shouldn't business use their initiative and NZ mentality to make their businesses profitable?


Free lunch, ratepayers?

Posted on 06-03-2015 12:41 | By nerak

I think each ratepayer should be gifted a free lunch at least once a year by any restaurant which uses public walkways for paying customers. Only fair? Maybe some councillors already get that? 'no cause for stronger enforcement or prosecution,” hmm. I resent having to walk out virtually on the road on one block on the Strand, where restaurant's street furniture has made it almost impossible to use the footpath. Why, on a wet day, should I get wet when there are verandahs I should be able to walk under? In years gone by I have moved sandwich boards out of my mother's path, these days I'm very tempted to do a bit of furniture shifting. I don't mind a few tables, but taking up almost the entire footpath is pure greed and lack of thought for others. Step up to your ratepayers, council.


Return to England

Posted on 06-03-2015 13:01 | By davidt5

Peter should return to his homeland as he obviously does not fit in her. The cafes are in the high pedestrian areas in the main shopping areas of the city. But the local folk like to dine outside in the open air and sunshine. This part of NZ perfectly suits this lifestyle. The diners are happy as are a great number of the pedestrians. NZ is a country where we all learn to share and get along together in harmony. For the above reasons Susan should consider moving away from Katikati. The council is doing the correct thing by leaving well alone.


Cyclists

Posted on 06-03-2015 15:20 | By Jitter

The first people who should be banned from footpaths are cyclists. I have lost count of the times we (my wife and I) have had to get out of the way of groups of cyclists and families riding on the foot path. If you don't get out of the way you are abused or they run into you. Until the law is changed cyclists should ride on the roads where they are supposed to be. The footpaths are exactly that, for foot traffic, not foot traffic and cyclists combined. They are not wide enough for groups of cyclists and pedestrians. Perhaps the cyclists would like to see pedestrians walking on the road ! I must admit I have seen the police issuing tickets to cyclists on the foot path. The more tickets that are issued to cyclists who are caught riding on the footpath the better.


Overit

Posted on 06-03-2015 15:32 | By overit

Why not have a few tables along the outside walls of the restaurants and forget having them on the edge of the pavement alongside where cars park.That might give more room.


On To It @ Overit

Posted on 06-03-2015 16:14 | By Disappointed

Absolutely correct. When pedestrians cannot pass freely and vehicle passengers cannot open the car door because table and chairs are all over the footpath then there is a problem. That TCC choose the same old "head in the sand" approach to this issue is par for the course. The best and only solution is to make Maunganui Road between Banks @ Pacific Avenues a pedestrian mall then everybody wins!!!


Who cares about the Strand shops?

Posted on 06-03-2015 16:30 | By Tga local

Try pushing a wheelchair or pushchair along the Strand. Its nearly impossible with the tables, chairs and trees blocking the footpath. You are forced to go on the road, and if it is wet, you are forced to get wet. People don't bother going there, it is a better shopping and dining experience at Bayfair, or Greerton, or many other pedestrian friendly areas. But in the winter months it is nice to see the businesses that don't care about pedestrians struggle for income. People, just vote with your feet, and spend your money where there is free parking, cover from the elements, and excellent shopping and dining experiences.


Footpaths are for PEOPLE!

Posted on 06-03-2015 16:33 | By SML

We have an aging population in Tauranga/Mt Maunganui, and they eat out too - yet it's harder and harder for them to do so, due to being unable to park close to restaurants/cafes and even harder to walk to them, or past them when not eating but shopping as at the Mount! In Tauranga, as others have said, you can't even walk under cover if it's wet - the restaurants have that, yet we had no say in that. And I'm in a wheelchair, so the issues are far more fraught for me - no close parking, unable to get past, unable to get under cover to where I'm going.


cont - Footpaths are for PEOPLE

Posted on 06-03-2015 16:37 | By SML

Don't do what Tauranga has done, at the Mount! for starters, the streets are narrower - so hard to get a wheelchair through the tables. And why should the tables take precedence over people? Set limits, TCC. Take a stand, without changing the ambiance, make restaurants pay per space and don't ruin it for shoppers and those with disabilities - Please!


Eat Street is coming!

Posted on 06-03-2015 21:05 | By How about this view!

I witnessed what I presume to be an exploratory street visit by Council staff on the Willow/Wharf Street corner outside the Council offices on Wednesday (Lots of arm waving a nodding heads). Question:- Who are the building owners that are set to gain handsomely from the establishment of "Eat Street" in Willow Street and what connections do they have with our Council seat-warmers, either socially or financially? We currently have a number of dead-end businesses along this street and I can see huge financial gain from increased rents to some faceless individuals at ratepayers expense maybe.


david t5

Posted on 06-03-2015 23:31 | By monty1212

I have never read such a ridiculous narrow minded rude comment. To suggest that a person should move continents because they have a view contrary to his blinkered rant is verging on racism. Not to mention he even got the wrong name, referring to Peter when it should have been Ken!He also makes the comment that 'NZ is a country that we all learn to share and get along in harmony'How delusional is that?


Listen up, council

Posted on 07-03-2015 08:48 | By nerak

judging by some comments re the unacceptable clutter on pavements in some spots, maybe you had better think again. I'm sure there are far more people than the commenters here who disagree with the current clutter, and the fact restaurants are getting a free ride. Got nothing to do with 'a bit of life' on the street, everything to do with making and policing rules that suit EVERYBODY, not just a select few. I actually like the outside dining concept, just not the way it has happened in Tauranga, where a great many pedestrians are inconvenienced for all the wrong reasons. Someone has asked what connections there might be between council/building owners...


Charges

Posted on 07-03-2015 12:03 | By Accountable

The Council do charge restaurants, cafes and bars to use the footpaths for the placement of their furniture on The Strand and Spring street. I am not sure about the Mount but one would expect the same charges there as well. I might add that the Councils rent charges for the footpaths are not cheap.Don't put all the blame on the businesses when it is the Council that is responsible and is also benefiting from these dining areas as well.


I Thought

Posted on 07-03-2015 12:12 | By Capt_Kaveman

this was sorted years ago with imposed limits for chairs tables etc, if i find to much clutter ill just push or kick the chairs out of the way


Typical Tauranga moaning mentality

Posted on 07-03-2015 13:46 | By BullShtAlert

Instead of looking at the bright side you know you're in Tauranga when everything has to be organised for the moaning common denominator. Are people's lives really that busy or self-important that they can't relax when walking down the street and take the time to smell the roses and God forbid maybe even talk to each other? And anything that slows down some of the more reckless mobility scooter drivers, the better. It's actually good for their driving skills inprovement.


Who's Moaning

Posted on 07-03-2015 16:29 | By Disappointed

As one who has enjoyed alfresco dining all over the world never have I witnessed the abuse of privilege that Council here have allowed restaurateurs. There is no "bright side" to impeding pedestrians on a public footpath - it is unsafe, it is unacceptable and the debate needs to be had!


BullShtAlert

Posted on 10-03-2015 10:17 | By tish

got his name right at least. He obviously has no clue what limited mobility means to those living with it, nor safety, nor their right to use the footpaths they also pay for the way they were intended to be used. He must have never pushed a pram or manoevered small children around in a small space, either. Yeah, hot coffee and little kids in comfined spaces, great safety combo that. Council needs to rethink their role in providing for all public safety in ordinary pedestrian areas instead of wasting large chunks of ratepayer $$ on nonsense replacing non-existent safety issues in playgrounds and over paying pet contractors for simple services. Sort out your core responsibilities to the people who pay your wages and get this rubbish off our footpaths before it injures someone.


BSA - yeah mate

Posted on 11-03-2015 14:39 | By YOGI BEAR

You have it sorted, mobility scooters can at times present a hazard, the usual reason is that they are not allowed to drive anymore so they let them lose on the unsuspecting public on the foot paths. I think scooters should be licensed and pay registration to.


It's the slippery tiled footpaths

Posted on 31-03-2015 00:08 | By awaroa

that put me off. Only takes a drop of wet/rain and the pavement is like walking on ice. Without a doubt if it's wet, I slip up. I always worry about the elderly slipping. I can get back up by myself and dust myself off. An older person could get seriously hurt. I'm sure there must be someway to keep people safe while looking nice?? If not, well the current paving is shocking and sooner or later someone will get seriously hurt.


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