COVID-19: PM outlines what‘s next

Photo: RNZ / Dom Thomas.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says no one wants to go backwards but the reality is ... it is not over.

On a Facebook livestream, Ardern has outlined scenarios where the country will need to go into different levels of lockdown in different regions if COVID-19 was to spread into the community.

"We will be guided by science and what we know works."

She says the government learnt a lot from the first wave of COVID-19.

"No one wants to go backwards but the reality is... it is not over."

"We will move at a local or regional level ... before we would move to national."

This is about preparedness, she said, and important to also give businesses some assurances.

The alert level framework can be used locally, nationally or regionally if need be, she says.

But, the first use will be local, she says.

Ardern says borders would need to be established to contain locally or regionally, and would be supported by agencies.

A regional level 4 would be to contain an outbreak.

"We would maintain a certain level of flexibility depending on what sort of outbreak we have."

She noted that in other countries, apartment blocks, workplaces and suburbs have all been locked down.

"The message here is in that eventuality, we wouldn't necessarily be moving all of New Zealand at once..."

New Zealand has learned that things move quickly and giving more than 24-48 hour frameworks would lose effectiveness, she says.

Health Minister Chris Hipkins says rapid contract tracing is vitally important.

"The more accurate that is early on, the more targeted we can be in our approach."

Ardern says she doesn't put a timeline on how long New Zealand's borders will be closed, "but it continues to be an area of risk that needs to be managed."

She says the news of Judith Collins becoming the new opposition leader is taking a "bare minimum of her thinking".

"I think right now, politicking doesn't matter much to them (the public)."

Hipkins says the contact tracing system will be at a gold standard when every New Zealander is keeping a good record of where they have been and every business has QR codes.

"It's reliant on all of us."

He says over recent weeks, he hasn't been as diligent as he should have been but he's stepped up his game.

"What if tomorrow there is notice of a case and we need to notify anyone who came in contact in or near that place," Ardern says.

She says people who test positive for COVID-19 may be removed from the community, and their homes, and put into a facility.

Hipkins says they are looking at different options for further contract tracing.

Ardern says there is an element of personal responsibility in all of this.

But the NZ Covid Tracer app is not a complete solution, she says.

"The Covid tracing app is all about people controlling their own data," Hipkins says.

In regards to a bubble with Rarotonga, Ardern says she's continuing her discussion with the Cook Island's prime minister.

Very strong physical barriers would be needed at airports for this to happen because there is currently no way to separate someone who is positive from someone who has come from a place with no cases, Ardern says.

She says any trans-Tasman bubble would be restricted to what is happening in each country.

"Obviously, now is not the time."

Ardern says on the issues of masks, there would be very specific guidance if there were to be outbreaks.

The NZ Covid Tracer app provides speed, unlike other apps, she says.

"I can tell people hand on heart that it is an app that looks after your personal security."

-RNZ

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6 comments

Our security...

Posted on 15-07-2020 11:45 | By morepork

... depends on the success of our border control in the first instance, and the efficiency of our testing and tracing in the second instance. So far, we are doing pretty well, but it is costly and uncomfortable. Why are we STILL not checking people BEFORE they board flights?


Despot

Posted on 15-07-2020 11:54 | By Slim Shady

As the election looms the scare tactics and threats to drag people from their homes will increase. This is how despots act if they think their absolute grip on power will be challenged. If she wins there will be fresh Covid legislation giving her even more power. We are headed towards one party absolute rule. It is what she dreamed of. Covid is just the cover she needed and she is using it to maximum effect.


@Slim Shady

Posted on 16-07-2020 11:49 | By morepork

I believe you are overstating the situation, but I agree that elements of what you say are true. The fact is that in this (Covid) situation ANY government will need to take emergency powers. Jacinda Ardern is hardly a "despot" and I can't see any NZ politician, on either side of the house who would be. (Neither would the population here tolerate it...) If you had lived in Romania under Ceaucescu, or any of the Eastern block countries (as I very briefly did) you would have a different perspective on exactly what a "despot" and a totalitarian regime are actually like. The emergency powers here will be revoked when the crisis is over; in a true dictatorship they go on forever.


@morepork

Posted on 16-07-2020 15:40 | By Slim Shady

Well actually I have. After serving in Vietnam I spent some time in Cambodia where I met and married my wife. When the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot took hold things got very ugly. Luckily we managed to escape by being airlifted to a US warship. Communists are fanatical extremists and what starts off minor soon escalates. Our freedoms are being eroded under the cover of Covid. Whilst I know many Kiwis would not “tolerate it“, you have to remember the same could be said of Cambodians, and other populations under Communist rule. But it’s too late before they realise. I look here at the extra Police powers, the threat to take people from their homes if they refuse testing and the military running the show at the border and it’s the thin end of the wedge. You may think it is due to Covid, I don’t.


@Slim Shady

Posted on 17-07-2020 02:38 | By morepork

A good response. Thanks. I take your point about some of the more Draconian measures being authorized. We saw film of people in China being dragged from their houses, but it hasn't happened here,... so far. It's also true that even if you are paranoid, they still could be out to get you and it doesn't hurt to be aware of it. I have faith in our people and I don't believe there will ever be a military coup here. (possibly, if there was a truly repressive government that tried to bypass the Law, but I don't see that as likely here either.) I have to admit it is arguable, and I could be wrong, but I really hope I'm not... :-)


@morepork

Posted on 17-07-2020 08:37 | By Slim Shady

I’m not paranoid. I haven’t started digging the bunker complex and making booby traps just yet. My house is not covered in aluminium foil. I’m just smarter than your average bear and know what’s what.


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