Should 16- and 17-year-olds get to vote?

Rotorua youth have their say on the voting age. Clockwise from top left: Keeley Carter-Conroy (16), Kya Stuart (17), Ethan Hoggard (18) and Frances Hazeldine (17). Photo / Andrew Warner.

As the election campaign heats up, Rotorua high school students are debating whether 16- and 17-year-olds should be allowed to vote.

The “yes” group has the backing of one of New Zealand’s youngest district councillors, Fisher Wang, who was 19, working at McDonald’s and not long out of high school when he was first elected to Rotorua Lakes District Council in 2019.

Some teenagers, however, say lowering the voting age from 18 to 16 would be a bad idea.

The voting age debate has been strengthened by two significant reviews last month that backed making it 16. These were the Review into the Future for Local Government and the interim report from the Independent Electoral Review into the central government system.

The local government panel’s recommendation was to “replenish local democracy”, with older Pākehā elected members being “over-represented” and voter turnout down.

“Rangatahi [young people] live with and will inherit the decisions made now, and 16- and 17-year-olds should be eligible to vote.”

Submissions for the central government electoral review closed last week and it was due to submit its final report in November.

The Supreme Court last November declared the current voting age of 18 was inconsistent with the Bill of Rights, namely the right to be free from discrimination on the basis of age, and that these inconsistencies have not been justified.

Prime Minister Chris Hipkins ruled out a referendum on the voting age this election.

Rotorua Lakes Council elected member Fisher Wang was first elected in 2019. Photo / Laura Smith.

Wang says lowering the voting age would be “a progressive and inclusive step forward”.

“Young people have a stake in the future of our communities and they should have a voice in shaping their future.”

He says it will be interesting to see how it will work legally and if 16-year-olds will have the same legal responsibilities as an adult.

He also wants civics education for young people, and to start the process of re-establishing a youth council to help younger voices be heard and, he believes, improve intergenerational decision-making. Wang was in the last group in 2016.

“Young people are caring more and more about their future. They see what is at stake here.”

Several pupils from Rotorua Girls’ High School and Rotorua Lakes High School spoke to Local Democracy Reporting about the topic.

Rotorua Lakes High School pupils Ethan Hoggard, 18 and Kya Stuart, 17. Photo / Andrew Warner.

Ethan Hoggard, 18, from Rotorua Lakes High believe it's a bad idea to give 16-year-olds the vote.

He says he thought about the people he knew aged 16 and that he probably would not have made good decisions at that age.

Schoolmate Kya Stuart, 17, agrees the voting age should not be that low and says it would add a lot of pressure on young people.

She says a youth council could create opportunities but believes many people complain without doing anything about it.

“There are enough opportunities if you go out of your way to do it.”

Pupils at Rotorua Girls High School have different viewpoints. Keeley Carter-Conroy, 16, says if she's deemed responsible enough to drive on the road, she's responsible enough to cast her vote.

She believes students should be educated about civics to give them an understanding of how local and central government impacted them personally, such as with rates.

“If we learned about it after school it would be a massive shock.”

Rotorua Girls' High School pupils Moerewarewa Tunui, 16, Frances Hazeldine, 17, and Keeley Carter-Conroy. Photo / Andrew Warner.

She feels being able to vote younger will give her some control in her life at an age when she feels lots is being “thrown” at her.

“I’d like to know there is something I can do as myself, and I can make a change instead of someone telling me what to do.”

She also backs the youth council idea, as does fellow pupils Frances Hazeldine, 17, and Moerewarewa Tunui, 16.

Hazeldine says youth often hold perspectives others do not, particularly on topics such as the environment.

She feels a youth council would be a good pathway for getting more young elected members.

“I know that the average age for people in the council is quite high, so [a] youth council could help to bring that down.”

Rotorua Lakes High School principal Jon Ward says there are students who are very keen for a lower voting age.

Sharing his personal views, Ward says he respects democracy and if it's what people wanted, then he's “all for it”.

He believes current social challenges mean it's good for children to engage with politics at an earlier age.

He has been involved in discussions with the council about a youth council in the past and would be on board again if it is an option.

Rotorua Girls’ High School principal Sarah Davis also supportsd any future youth council being established.

She agrees with lowering the voting age, saying there are students who want to be heard.

“Love it, love the idea”.

Youth offer perspective adults may not see, she says.

She says political candidates invited to speak to Year 13s during the last general election were impressed by what the pupils had to say.

Education Minister Jan Tinetti says the Government is committed to giving schools and kura flexibility and support to teach life skills in a range of contexts according to local needs.

“The refreshed New Zealand curriculum will identify life skills capabilities across all learning areas, including civics and citizenship capability.”

She says through the curriculum, school children would learn how societies organised systems and rules to create unity and order, roles and responsibilities related to these systems and rules, and the impact of them on people’s freedom and experience of justice.

It also creates a School Leavers’ Toolkit website, which helps young people gain critical life skills on topics such as government and voting, moving out of home, getting a job, and money and tax.

Public Interest Journalism funded through NZ On Air.

13 comments

v ote

Posted on 27-07-2023 12:05 | By dumbkof2

12 and 14 year olds will have to live with decisions made by 16 and 17 year olds


No!

Posted on 27-07-2023 12:30 | By Helo1

No!! Or if they do they can go to prison at that age too!!


Hmmm

Posted on 27-07-2023 13:04 | By Let's get real

Let's be honest here.. There are plenty of retirees that don't have a clue what they are voting for. Generations of family members have voted Blue or Red and that's what is going to happen for another generation or two. I don't agree with giving the rights to vote to some groups, like prisoners for example, but I guess the reasons we object to schoolchildren voting is that they are very impressionable, haven't had any exposure to independent living and we're frightened that the established political parties are not "cool" enough and we will have MMP (more morons in parliament).


Legal age

Posted on 27-07-2023 13:06 | By CliftonGuy

If teenagers who do ram raids are not considered to be old enough and responsible enough to be tried as adults, how come they are now considered old enough to be able to have the responsibility for voting?
Teenagers of age 16/17 have hardly enough life experience to be able to evaluate the pros and cons of the political spectrum and issues relating to them. In fact, there are many adults who are unable to do so. Look at the poor choices of people who have been voted into parliament and councils.
My feeling is that people of this age will just be led by the noses by those older than them, based on some hidden agenda.


Overit

Posted on 27-07-2023 14:30 | By overit

Clifton Guy is so on the money.
Well said Sir.


NO !

Posted on 27-07-2023 17:20 | By Equality

NO!
An idiotic idea!


Kids vote?

Posted on 27-07-2023 17:31 | By cat4jesus

Absolutely no to anyone under 18 voting. Even then, no life experience or responsibility. Prefer going back to all things 21.

This is the responsibility of adults, even the ones who don't bother or have a clue to what or who they are voting, and many are confused about the MMP voting system. For many, they still think Labour is the working man's party and so that's who they vote for.

Biblically, a man wasn't considered adult enough for responsibility until he was 30. Women mature earlier.

Why is this topic coming up yet again - Labour coalition getting desperate? Haven't they done enough damage with their biased legislation?

No, no, no to lower the voting age.


Ram raids!

Posted on 27-07-2023 17:51 | By kiwigirl41

Kids doing ram raids will be voting at the next election if this goes through...scary!
Prisoners should not have the right to vote either..they gave up that right when they offended


Definately Not

Posted on 28-07-2023 07:13 | By Thats Nice

Can't believe this is still being talked about. A 16-year-old has no history of being in the workforce for any amount of time and also minimal experience about just about everything actually.


agree

Posted on 28-07-2023 13:38 | By Howbradseesit

Agree with everyone who has pointed out that in NZ youths '17 and under' aren't considered old enough to be held accountable for their decisions which is why they are given special treatment in the youth court to recognise their immature brains.
Yet now it is suggested they are responsible enough to make decisions on who should be in Government? Lets try and be consistent around what level of responsibility youths are capable of and apply that consistently aye.


There is plenty.......

Posted on 28-07-2023 19:36 | By groutby

.....of evidence to conclude that youth of today develop and mature (both sexes) much slower (later) today than in say, the 70's or 80's...and there is realistic and genuine reason for this...so...apart from ego, what possible reason could their be for reducing the voting age unless it is for 'political preference' ... it should actually probably be raised!....


Pay some taxes first kids

Posted on 29-07-2023 11:07 | By Tom Ranger

Put money in the coffers and then have a say on what it's spent on.
In reality govt will spend it on what they want anyway and claim our votes have given them mandate.
But basic theory I put forward is true.
Pay taxes..then have a vote towards where those taxes and rates are spent. At 16...how much tax have they managed to pay? I would have to assume on average....Zip. Nada. Zero.
They've usually just discovered student allowances by then which they spend on pies and drinks.


Yes

Posted on 03-08-2023 17:33 | By Eric Bantona

Yes. And while they’re at it, let’s have an upper limit too. What we saying, 75?


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