Treaty referendum ruled out under Luxon's watch

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon at Rātana Pa. Photo / Reece Baker

The prime minister has ruled out signing up to a treaty referendum if National and ACT are back at the negotiating table after elections in 2026.

The Treaty Principles Bill continues to dog the National Party despite Luxon's repeated efforts to communicate the legislation will not go beyond second reading.

At Rātana Pa today, Kiingitanga spokesperson Rahui Papa told Luxon "the state of the Māori nation is at the highest level of concern that it has been for a whole lot of years."

Luxon responded by reiterating a message he has repeated ad naseum during his time in the top job, that "National won't support the bill, it will be voted down and it won't become law".

He was later asked what he would do if the ACT Party asked for a public referendum on the Treaty next term.

"I will [refuse]. It's a no for me."

When approached for comment, ACT Party leader David Seymour said: "It's always best not to get too far ahead of yourself, you've got to serve the people and see if they re-elect you first."

Luxon said there was no doubt the Treaty Principles Bill had caused anxiety on both sides of the debate and blamed the former Labour government for the angst.

"We are where we are because of, I think, the previous government not making the case for the changes it was driving through that period of time, but that then creating that division."

The Treaty Principles Bill is government legislation Luxon himself signed, sealed and delivered for ACT through the coalition agreements at the start of the term.

Green Party co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick at Rātana Pa. Photo / Reece Baker

The Green Party today pushed for National to bin the bill right now, arguing it had technically fulfilled its coalition promise now it was before select committee.

It was not something Luxon would entertain.

"We want to run a process. That was our commitment that we take it to first reading and select committee," he said.

The Justice Committee would start hearing oral submissions on the Treaty Principles Bill on Monday and Luxon had been keen to emphasise the process was nearly over.

"The reality is it will pass. We've got one more month of submissions and then the bill will be killed."

Deputy Prime Minister and New Zealand First leader Winston Peters also emphasised the bill's limited lifetime today, saying it was "dead in the water".

Te Pāti Māori co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer speaking to media at Rātana on 24 January, 2025. Photo/ Reece Baker

Te Pāti Māori co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer later told reporters the strong statements had only left people asking why the bill had got this far if neither National or New Zealand First liked it.

"The whole way through they have assured us that they will vote the bill down - but where I was sitting, which is like second row from the pae, everyone was saying, 'then why?'

"Why did you agree to it? Why are you here defending that you agreed to it? Why are we having to waste all that ink?"

Green Party co-leader Chloe Swarbrick said National could halt select committee proceedings now if it wanted.

"The coalition agreement says to take it to select committee, it doesn't promise a second reading."

Kamaka Manuela and Labour Leader Chris Hipkins at Rātana Pa Photo / Reece Baker

Labour leader Chris Hipkins said the statements at Rātana Pa would do little to assuage people's concerns about the legislation.

"The damage has been done. They've set the relationship between Māori and non-Māori back by decades and it was an unnecessary debate. We didn't need to do this."

Luxon said he and his senior leadership team had maintained "constructive dialogue" with iwi leaders over the last year with a focus on what areas the Crown and Māori could collaborate on.

7 comments

Referendum

Posted on 26-01-2025 09:26 | By rogue

As a democracy we should have the opportunity to all have our say about treaty, a non bias referendum seems the most logical option.
No need for politics to ge in the way, no need for a noisy minority.
We're all adults , let us have our say instead of just the politicians way.


Hmmm

Posted on 26-01-2025 12:31 | By Let's get real

We are currently living during what may turn out to be the most important time in our nations history. Whether it's seen to be beneficial or detrimental to the nation as a whole will only be determined in the future.
All I can attest to in the last few years is the movement of nearly all of my children's university colleagues overseas. Both of my children are also planning to go overseas, not specifically because of the current environment of contempt for one another, but moreover, because there are greater possibilities for their futures.
How shameful is that.... Our future sees a better life somewhere else.


@rogue

Posted on 26-01-2025 14:32 | By morepork

Of course there should be a binding referendum on a review of the Treaty and its Principles, by all interested parties. We have no "Amendments" mechanism that would allow us to update and modernize the Treaty (like the USA does) so it would probably need to be revoked and replaced with a new Constitution that would guarantee the same rights to ALL New Zealanders, including Maori. The needs of the country today are NOT the same as the needs in 1840. The fundamental principles should be that the Crown governs (no co-governance), but ability for consultation and advice from interested parties during the formulation of legislation. ALL cultures and ethnicities should be respected and preserved as we create a diverse society, based on equal rights for all. But the Laws of the country would be paramount over customs and tradition if there is conflict. (More in separate post...)


@rogue2

Posted on 26-01-2025 14:58 | By morepork

I agree with you that a non-biased referendum is the right of all citizens in a Democratic society, But, instead, we are seeing extremists attempting to steal the country with social media spewing out emotional disinformation, and even statements like: "I only know how to be Maori" (from an MP who clearly doesn't think she needs to understand the democratic process, or the protocols of governmental power), or "We don't want Democracy; Democracy means the majority rule...", from a Party leader. We had 30,000 people marching in a hikoi because they believed that their culture as Maori was being threatened. (It wasn't...it was just emotional reaction and deliberate misinformation from extremists and WOKE vested interests, suggesting it was the duty of all Maori to contest the proposals.) Unfortunately, your last sentence is doubtful; we are clearly NOT all adults when it comes to implementing true Democracy.


This

Posted on 26-01-2025 15:35 | By Merlin

This is becoming a great waste of time and money as nothing is going forward from the first reading. Ah politicians!!


I do appreciate....

Posted on 26-01-2025 17:09 | By groutby

....Prime Minister Luxon has made his position on any treaty referendum clear at this early point .....
He should therefore prepare himself for a serious reduction in support at the next election, I think his position albeit definitive, is somewhat tenuous at best, those on the 'other' side of politics were never going to support National anyway, but he will lose IMO, some 'traditional' voters to alternative parties at his peril.....


The Master

Posted on 27-01-2025 10:08 | By Ian Stevenson

Obviously, democracy has died, where the public do not get a say in the electoral, human rights and how governance will be setup and run... says it all.

Obviously, for many the issue will have to escalate further before Luxo and others who would appear somewhat ignorant of history repeating here, before reality catches up.


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