Supermarket mediation underway

A Countdown supermarket on the site of the Bureta Park Motor Inn is not out of the question yet, with Environment Court mediation processes currently underway.

Progressive Enterprises is appealing Hearings Commissioner David Hill's decision last November to decline consent for the proposed 4,620m2 supermarket development.

Progressive Enterprises is appealing Hearings Commissioner David Hill's decision to decline the proposed Bureta Countdown plans.

Tauranga City Council's principle planner Rebecca Perrett says there has now been one mediation session with no result released by the court.

Mediation is an appellant's first step on the track to a court hearing, if difficulties are unable to be resolved.

The proposed supermarket site is zoned residential, even though it has been home to the former Otumoetai Licensing Trust hotel (now the Bureta Park Motor Inn) for about 40 years.

On November 30, 2012, David denied the application due to the noncomplying land use activity, and traffic issues that would be created by the project.

While the redevelopment would provide many of the benefits PEL claims, at the end of the day the proposal will introduce a level and intensity of non-residential activity not seemingly anticipated in an urban residential zone, says the commissioner's decision

Traffic issues are also a big factor. Former owner Perry Developments obtained resource consent in 2009 for a mixed residential commercial development at Bureta Park that planners say will generate 357 peak hour movements – compared with 546 peak hour movements, from half the area.

The fact the other half of the residentially zoned property is on the market was also mentioned as a factor.

'It would appear that the applicant proposes to take all of the benefit of the consented effects into the western half of the parent site leaving the future owner of the eastern site to take its chances,” says David.

'While such is undoubtedly legitimate practice in commercial terms, compressing the consented effects from a larger site into a smaller one would not appear to be comparing apples with apples as far as the Act is concerned.”

The commissioners also find a proposal to shift The Mill bottlestore to Vale Street not conducive to good planning and operations, and have negative social effect with the city council's own pensioner housing directly opposite the site.

The law requires that before being eligible for consideration generally under section 104 of the RMA, an application for a non-complying activity must satisfy the decision maker either that its adverse effects will be minor, or that it will not be contrary to the objectives and policies of any relevant plan or proposed plan.

'In other words, the threshold for satisfaction is that we must be certain,” says commission chair David Hill.

Without understanding the demands that would be created from the development of the land to the east of the supermarket site, and the continued reliance on the use of Bureta Rd as a primary servicing road for the developments, there is significant doubt about the capacity within the road network, the commissioners say.

The higher demands of a full site development on the Ngatai and Bureta intersection and to a lesser extent, the local roads feeding into Bureta/Vale intersection, would have a more than minor impact on network capacity and safety.

'We consider that to approve a supermarket on part of the site without a high degree of certainty as to the use of the eastern portion, where access is onto Vale St only and hence capacity is even more limited than for the western part of the development, is not an appropriate outcome.”

Ordinarily changing zoning from residential to commercial would be undertaken by means of a Plan Change - requiring an associated careful traffic assessment of both the local and wider network effects. This has not been undertaken, so the magnitude of any such effects cannot, with confidence, be said to be minor, says David.

34 comments

oh please

Posted on 14-06-2013 12:32 | By traceybjammet

for goodness sake we do not need anymore supermarkets most of us will shop online and get our groceries delivered soon so whats the darn point of more of these ugly places


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Posted on 14-06-2013 12:46 | By whatsinaname

so true traceybjammet. That area of ground is beautifull. why make a nother concrete area. Let the ground BREATHE. Yes to many supermarkets around...............


Great

Posted on 14-06-2013 12:47 | By marcus

We are the REAL locals still love the idea of local shopping just down the street, beats having to drive for groceries, good for older folks too and gives the area the life it deserves.


Me Too!!

Posted on 14-06-2013 12:50 | By Lois

We don't need any more supermarkets full stop. Especially Countdown, the slowest checkouts in the wild west, so no, no, no.


Tracey BJ

Posted on 14-06-2013 12:50 | By The Master

The purpose is to make money, more is better and of course the less cost the better to do so. This is where commercial interests look to try and run rough shod over any/all in the vacinity. Nothing from PEL here is about the community effets, they have not even completed a traffic assessment of the impact but have gone straight to "no problem mate" add to that the truck/trailer units that will be running around 24/7 then there will be little rest/sleep at night as well.


Need change of City plan?

Posted on 14-06-2013 14:01 | By The Master

So does that mean that the applicaiton for the supermarket does not comply with the current plan? That would mean that is wsa and is doomed to fail from the start. What a waste of everyones time on that one then, someone has failed to do thre job and some here and of course TCC should have rejected it all from that start ... oh thats right they were encouraging it all and assisting the applicant to avoid 99% of Tauranga residences by a limited notice to teh immediate locals. Nothing here looks good at all.


Tracey BJ

Posted on 14-06-2013 15:00 | By My Bit

Only about 10% of you shop online so MOST DON'T its convenience people want so let it go ahead


Bring it On

Posted on 14-06-2013 15:07 | By carpedeum

Great location for a decent supermarkdet and Countdown is certainly in that category. Service PLUS all round. Lots of local shopping instead of being hearded into that HUGELYT expensive New World at Bellvue where everything is at least $1.00 dearer than anywhere else. Good to have choice and competition is healthy


Looks good compared to the alternate

Posted on 14-06-2013 16:22 | By blokebear

We heard rumors if it doesn't go ahead it will end up cheap dense unit housing, I hope not, We know what we would rather have up the street, easy convenience shopping easily accessable for us older folk!


Cheap housing would be better

Posted on 14-06-2013 18:42 | By Annalist

Rather than a supermarket which needs special permission, why not build cheap housing instead? Cheap housing is much needed, and the land is apparently zoned residential already. So if the supermarket proposal fails, I think low cost housing would be great, and people can even walk to town from there.


Better Site Than in Marsh Street as per Rumours

Posted on 14-06-2013 22:09 | By tabatha

The traffic problem was created by some locals living close by, it was a flawed result for a start with only selected people allowed to object (support or put down). The comment a bout cheapish housing is scary and once again the problems that the pub when built 40 years ago was also said to create. Live not far away and no problems, have had music until 10ish and then quiet. Most noise happened a few years back when one local motor bike gang use to descend and go. Lasted all of a few minutes. As for Countdown been slow others have there problems too like three wide trolley isles and people blocking them to have a chat. Good luck progressive. Would love to support you with a written submission.


Bullies

Posted on 14-06-2013 23:32 | By Johnney

Let's throw out the district plan. Councils always bow down to corporate bullies with huge budgets and fancy lawyers. Let them put in a submission in the next ten year plan and go through the proper processes like you and me would have to do !!!


All you supermarket-ites

Posted on 15-06-2013 02:36 | By Crash test dummies

Jeff, to many already. Carpedeum, they all profiteer so ship some where and educate them that "you ain't just another brick in the wall" Blokebear, the Corp/cheaper/high density "cheap as" housing is at Tauriko.


Heading should read ...

Posted on 15-06-2013 09:43 | By Murray.Guy

Supermarket mediation underway, should read 'Supermarket manipulation underway'.... Regardless of who wants, they wants and I want - It's a residential zone. It appears that if you are connected to the right people, have enough money, City Plans and zones are open to be abused in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.


Cheap housing would be worse than supermarket

Posted on 15-06-2013 09:44 | By Phailed1

But at least it would satisfy all the moaners who scream about a supermarket in a residential zone being against the rules (school prefect syndrome). I've seen cheap low cost housing areas that still have very nice people living there. I'm sure it could be done nicely to start with and nobody could complain because its residential. Yes.


let them build their supermarket!

Posted on 15-06-2013 10:08 | By The author of this comment has been removed.

Bureta does not NEED any more 'cheap housing' more than it needs a supermarket. There are no supermarkets over that side of town with the exception of Brookfield New world. Matua,cherrywood and bureta residents need a supermarket in their area. greerton gets a countdown, fraser cove gets a countdown, 13th ave gets a countdown, bayfair gets countdown so why not the otumoetai/bureta area too!


Murray

Posted on 15-06-2013 10:18 | By The Master

So why bother with a city plan, rules and whatever else, evryone should be able to just do "whatever" they want to. I agree with the comment you have made about "connected to the right people, have enough money" I presume you means TCC staff in the right place and perhaps a sprinkling of Councillors as well? It is obvious that they are completely ignoring the zoning, not even seeking to change it just going straight for "I want ... I want ..." seems that they are going to keep going until they get! But what a precedent that will set for all.


uptomischief yes

Posted on 15-06-2013 10:50 | By hapukafin

i agree a little of Bethlehem shopping there would be great,better than 6 level high apartment blocks


Up 2 misbehaving?

Posted on 15-06-2013 17:06 | By Plonker

The future will be higher density housing, the Council is unable to economically deal with services to the community so closer, lower cost infrastructure will always be better.


Question for Cr Guy

Posted on 15-06-2013 18:57 | By Councillorwatch

Could Cr Guy tell us what zoning the precious Speedway stadium or Baypark was before the stadium was put there? Was it zoned for Speedway or did it have to go through a process just like this supermarket? Let's have some consistency here. Also why was a pub built on this site years and years ago, is that somehow not commercial? Come to think of it Cr Guy, was the hospital built on residential zoned land? And who makes the rules that zone the land anyway? The council and its bureaucrats I suspect.


Baypark zoning?

Posted on 15-06-2013 22:57 | By Crash test dummies

Did not matter, what was built was never approved of before or during the building process. It was built then after wards the officials just ticked all the boxes but now no one Will show the public the building file, at least PEL put an application in first, that much is at least a few % better. Shame that even that application was half baked.


For the benefit of ...

Posted on 15-06-2013 23:31 | By Murray.Guy

Councillorwatch. The process required for the super market in Bureta residential zone should have been (at the very least) the same that speedway on the Baypark site (Commercial/industrial zone?) went through, being a fully notified public consultation process, BUT IT DIDN'T, for reasons many never understood or accepted. The 'zone rules' (City Plan) are arrived at in consultation with the community (albeit manipulated at times to suit the agendas of some). For many, myself included, concern is centred mostly around the failure of the Council to ensure 'meaningful consultation' with a clearly affected residential community, confined to a handful of direct neighbours. The Master asks, "Why bother with a City Plan?" A reasonable question given the integrity applied under our present influences!


How about answering all the questions Cr Guy?

Posted on 16-06-2013 12:54 | By Councillorwatch

Or is it a bit inconvenient that it's a case of one commercial use (supermarket) replacing an existing commercial use (booze, restaurants etc? Your suggestion that this supermarket idea go through at least the same consultation as Baypark doesn't stand up. Baypark generates far more noise, traffic, parking and pollution on the environment. Do you think that consultation is good if everyone agrees with you? But let's look at consistency a bit more. You seem to support the Clarkson proposal for housing at Tauriko, but I read it's in a rural zone, not a residential zone. To use your type of argument, regardless of who wants, they wants and I want, it's a rural zone. We can't have zones open to be abused in pursuit of the almighty dollar (your words), can we Cr Guy? After all, your Council seems determined to spend our almighty dollar on all manner of things. Come to think of it, the almighty dollar just might be a motive for councillors eh? A salary of about Almighty Dollars $70,000?


THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS SERIOUSLY FLAWED

Posted on 16-06-2013 13:23 | By CONDOR

No meaningful honest and open public consultation, No proper TCC planning assessment of the application, No proper grounds for a limited RMA notification,No justifiable Council planning hearing report and the crowning glory no Independent Hearing Commissioner approval for any part of the RMA Application.Yes a supermarket may have a place at Bureta Park if everything for the facility is completely accessed off Bureta Road,all parking contained on site, traffic movements (hours) controlled and the serious traffic issues at Bureta Road and Vale St intersections with Ngatai Road properly and comprehensively addressed and the cost of remedial work fully met by Countdown not TCC ratepayers.Applicant needs to be open & honest and sit down with the local Matua Peninsula community and resolve this RMA mess otherwise it deserves to be booted into touch.


To Murray

Posted on 16-06-2013 14:13 | By Plonker

You clearly have your concerns on the rules, processes and manipulation by Council staff. These are real issues and illustrate an organization that is not accountable for its actions, they need to have their jobs on the line when they stuff it up and get it wrong. The words of Condor and Councillorwatch have it well and truly covered indeed but Murray how is this stopped from happening? I would also add that comments below about Baypark's application being legitimate also seem a bit suspect, perhaps you could find a better example that was "clean" followed the rules and was completed from start to finish. The track record here is looking really bad as it seems TCC go through a consultation process and approve a city plan and then they just wander off westward doing "something" else when it suits?


Come on Murray

Posted on 16-06-2013 19:51 | By The Master

Pull the other leg ... the approval of Baypark by the Emvironment COurt was for a 10,000 seat stadium, however that is not what was built it ended up as over 20,000 seat stadium. To NZTA, TCC and almost in involved was a horrifying beast rising up out of the mud and to this date no approvals have ever been publically consulted on, what a shocker it is Murray! I believe TCC has been spending years rubber stamping it.


Come On 'The Master' ...

Posted on 17-06-2013 22:56 | By Murray.Guy

Firstly, I wasn't around for the Baypark Consent process, nor had any personal involvement in the sport. I don't believe for a second that there was not widespread community consultation, and I am well aware of the almost 'total absence' of any negative impact on any neighbours or distant residential occupiers. Other than a couple (literally) of frequent complainants who choose to focus on Baypark as a pet hobby, I am not aware of ANY recurring negative impacts. In regards, '...was a horrifying beast rising up out of the mud', perhaps so in your opinion, BUT out of the mud it did, adjacent an estuary, a railway line and state highway, with minimal impact on an Residential environment and certainly NOT inside one. The speedway and its 18 evenings is hardly comparable to a super market operating 365 days a year in a residential area. As for the TCC rubber stamping it, show me the evidence, as, from where I sit, all too often TCC have undermined and put at risk the legitimate recreational pursuit of thousands to satisfy their egos and that of a handful at best!


Baypark plans

Posted on 18-06-2013 14:03 | By Plonker

I like the idea of baypark and everything but the approved plans for it were nothing like what was then built, that is the problem as the stadium certainly projects more into the skyline than it was planned to do.


Murray justifies the Unjustifiable

Posted on 18-06-2013 17:51 | By The Master

Please do come on out Murray. You are adrift on most of what you have said; let's straighten it up a bit. Firstly: I never said you were around for Baypark build, secondly: you are an avid speedway supporter, thirdly: there was "consultation" but that was on the proposed plan not what was built and that was majorly different to what the Environment Court approved Fourthly: you say " 'total absence' of any negative impact..." what a joke that is, where have you been for the last 13 year and more? Where were you when the old Baypark was there it also had "issues" as well of the same nature; noise, dust and traffic congestion and so on. The noise management is a joke as the allowable level is regularly broken and ignored, the noise policy has holes in it that the Rena could flatten in 5 seconds ... Sixthly: You have confirmed the 'regular' residential impact in that some regular complaints come through so your own statements are contradictory! The noise issue is the major item as that happens way too often and contrary to the outside the consent issued, seventhly; the beast out of the mud, at least we agree on that obvious one item. eighthly; residential impact has been significant but I guess you have to live here to know anything, you don't so remain ignorant, ninthly; Baypark 18 nights ... are actually worse as the noise is extreme and beyond the noise level permitted, the supermarket will have impact but as long as appropriate approvals are in place then a good decision will be made simple really, many other supermarkets have homes close by, the trucks are one issue the noise 24/7 from the refrigeration is also an issue, but they can be addressed where as Baypark is blatantly outside its consent, tenthly; TCC rubber stamping of the file, go look yourself the building file is closed off to public inspection, when TCC purchased Baypark there were no codes of compliance issued at all, there was even that shed down the back that was used for a non consented use that TCC did nothing about it, TCC are clearly unable to deal with the consent process and do it fairly, right and by the book each and overtime, the question really is how does this happen and so badly? Eleventh; "Thousands" I would say that there are more like "hundreds at Baypark, TCC has catered for a few and the many are paying dearly for it ever since. Twelfthly; Egos, they are certainly rife at TCC if you are in favour then anything goes if not then the lawyers are all over you all at ratepayer expense.


Murray

Posted on 20-06-2013 10:15 | By YOGI BEAR

I guess you don't have an answer to all that?


mediation?

Posted on 20-06-2013 12:34 | By YOGI BEAR

What they really mean is "badgering" of the few ... and that will not be a Tui advert it will be the real deal.


If Murray says so, it must be correct

Posted on 20-06-2013 16:52 | By Councillorwatch

Others may have predeterminations or their minds may be made up or they may be pursuing the almighty dollar, or maybe they don't want the best possible outcomes. For Murray a zone is a zone. Seems consistent so far. Let's see.


Pull the other one!

Posted on 22-06-2013 11:37 | By Plonker

Councilor watch, I do have to admire your utterly, total, blind and oblivious faith that every word Murray utters is right and always right? You need to get off those sleeping pills and awaken from your slumber and some!


Racing at Baypark

Posted on 25-06-2013 10:31 | By Crash test dummies

Well Murray your involvement leaves a lot unanswered, seen you at speedway, you are without doubt an advocate for it


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