Why big acts bypass Tauranga

The Topp Twins and The Seekers – two bands with large followings in Tauranga – will be touring the country very soon.

But if you wanted to see them play in Tauranga you're out of luck – neither act is stopping here.


Kokomo frontman Derek Jacombs, outside Baycourt, says the city has music tour venues but they're not always available or suitable. Photo by David Tauranga.

As the fifth largest city in New Zealand, why do we miss out on some great acts from time to time?

We have the venues; there's Baycourt Community and Arts Centre with 577 seats, Holy Trinity Church with 800, and the ASB Arena which can host up to 4000 people.

Kokomo frontman Derek Jacombs says yes, there are venues, but they're not always available or suitable.

'Tauranga is poorly served with variety and number of venues, there's no alternatives – that's the problem.”

Derek also laments the loss of Bureta Park, which in its heyday hosted acts like Cold Chisel's Ian Moss and the Hunters & Collectors.

'Now they're building a goddamn supermarket. We lost it and nothing took its place.”

This November The Seekers are taking a five-stop tour of New Zealand, presented by Showcase Entertainment Group Ltd.

Company director Layton Lillas says he has no issue with Tauranga, we're a 'good audience”, but limited by venue options.

He's brought acts to Tauranga in the past, such as The Hollies at Mills Reef Winery in 2013, Gerry and the Pacemakers with The Searchers at Holy Trinity Church, plus John Rowles at Baycourt in 2012.

'The only bona fide venue in Tauranga is Baycourt. It's fine but too small; there's only 550-odd seats and only certain sorts of acts play there.

'There's nothing wrong with acoustics and sound, but the capacity is too small. It just makes no financial sense.”

In terms of The Seekers, it was ultimately a financial decision as the band only wanted to do a handful of shows, Layton says.

For The Topp Twins latest tour, managed by Diva Promotions in Auckland, Tauranga was left off due to venue availability.

Tour manager Michelle Duff says Tauranga was originally pencilled down but they were unable to secure Baycourt for the required dates.

'The Twins have always had fantastic support for their shows in Tauranga, but sadly the only venue big enough is Baycourt,” says Michelle.

'It is always difficult to coordinate venues within tour dates, a bit of a jigsaw. There are often places we would have liked to go but didn't have dates available. I am sure this is the case for every promoter.”

'To the best of my knowledge we have never had any particular problems securing dates at Baycourt and have performed there in the past.”

There are also the costs and logistics of moving a large cast and crew around the country, says Michelle.

While not wanting to cause a ruckus, Layton believes Tauranga City Council and venues don't help themselves either.

Hamilton's Claudelands Arena chased promoters to bring acts to the venue, a reason why Bob Dylan played there in August and Ricki Martin will be there next year, says Layton.

'The TECT Arena; I wouldn't have a clue who runs that place. No-one has put it in front of me and said: ‘Look, this is a venue that's got brilliant sound'.

'They're not proactively attracting promoters to Tauranga; if they did they'd be all over me and other promoters of my ilk.”

TCC's strategic events manager Pip Loader disagrees, saying Baycourt in particular actively pursues events.

Council wants to provide a wide range of entertainment options for Tauranga locals and maximise the use of our venues, says Pip.

'Many promoters are happy to put Tauranga on their tour schedules and shows often sell-out.

'An example of this is the Wellington Ukelele Orchestra, which is committed to coming to Tauranga on their next tour.”

But Pip says the size of Tauranga's venues will be an issue at times with promoters, who often need to make tough commercial decisions.

There are a number of factors for promoters when booking in events – seat and venue availability are two.

'This would happen for most centres for differing reasons. We can only work with what we have got until someone decides to build and pay for new and larger venues in the city,” says Pip.

Council has proposed additional funding of $382,000 in the draft 2014/2015 Annual Plan to support the delivery of events.

This included additional funding of $200,000 for major events which would be matched by external funders.

The proposed changes would also include a new structure for delivering events and updating of the existing events policy.

Council has adopted both the new policy and additional funding, so Tauranga locals 'can expect to see more support for existing events and new events being added to the events calendar over time”.

But until this happens – anyone fancy a weekend in Hamilton?

What band currently touring would you love to see play in Tauranga? Write your answer in the comments below.

23 comments

What a joke.

Posted on 14-09-2014 07:56 | By Gammelvindnz

Bob Dylan - Wellington Ukelele Orcestra, what a decision, someone is missing the point here.


And not just the bands either

Posted on 14-09-2014 08:09 | By mizprint

This was evident when Billy Connolly toured New Zealand on his '11 City NZ Tour'. Technically NZ only has 5 cities (classed by population) & Tauranga is one of them. Yet Billy bypassed us in favour of tinpot towns like Ashburton etc. Go figure!


Agree

Posted on 14-09-2014 09:08 | By Jitter

We have been asking the same question for years.Why do these sort of shows miss Tauranga ? Having said that if the problem is lack of suitable venues why do most of the Russian ballet companies visiting NZ come to Tauranga ? They normally have a large cast and crew travelling with them so that shoots down that argument. Perhaps Baycourt and TCC staff only chase shows that THEY want !!!


no dough no go

Posted on 14-09-2014 09:12 | By usandthem

I have been to a lot of concerts at baycourt and most are not even sold out so you cant expect acts to come to Tauranga when the crowds don't turn up.This only proves the fact that Tauranga is such a false city,it's made out to be a wealthy place but the truth is people can't afford to go to these concerts.


Seriously? The Topp twins or seekers?

Posted on 14-09-2014 11:01 | By How about this view!

Nearly fell off my chair laughing! User pays my friends!!! If the locals are tucked up in bed at night listening to Kerre or to the collected speeches of Winston First, then as usandthem suggests the theatres will be empty and apart from Winston, who wants to play to an empty hall (P.S. That's why he has all of his meetings between breakfast and nap time).


since

Posted on 14-09-2014 11:55 | By Capt_Kaveman

this fabricated TCC venues took over Baypark seating 17,000+ has had NO concerts


entertainment

Posted on 14-09-2014 12:27 | By spikeredmires

Tauranga council have a small town mentality.Who's driving Tauranga as a city?? Who the Heck is the Ukelele orchestra?? Which part of the population are we targeting here. I'm 61 years old and i'd rather die than see them. Give me the eagles, anytime.Why not ask Phil Rudd if he would bring ACDC here? now we're talking. Ask anyone and they will tel you Tauranga is a boring Town entertainment wise. Come on people, we may attract businesses here through infrastructure and the port but what about entertainment is this not an attraction worth investing in.


shows

Posted on 14-09-2014 12:34 | By dumbkof2

they dont come to tauranga because they cant sell enough seats at 150 bucks each to maintain their enormus profits


Concerts no business of Council

Posted on 14-09-2014 13:13 | By Annalist

Ratepayers already fund or subsidise enough venues. If anyone has a bright idea for a concert or band then let them organise and fund it themselves. Council shouldn't get in to the business of buying events.


I have and would again

Posted on 14-09-2014 13:27 | By How about this view!

Paid the entry fee for a good show, but I now can't be bothered looking at the upcoming events. It seems to cater for either the "spend other peoples money" ARTS crowd, occasionally with someone actually playing the hugely expensive piano, after it has been tuned again, or fundraising events for our schools through their productions. What is wrong with schools using the existing performing arts buildings in our publicly funded or privately funded schools? And those are probably the right places to send the Wellington Ukulele Orchestra and other nonsense events. Has anyone considered targeting the youngsters who tend to end up with Mum and Dads' disposable income? I know that mine are always saying that there is nothing to do in GODS' WAITING-ROOM.


Look at who's making the decision

Posted on 14-09-2014 13:51 | By DaKiwiBean

One need to firstly look at who is in the decision making process. My understanding is that the emphases are firstly to support local (native) culture before anything else. Better to have only 100 in a 500+ seat auditorium. That's really cleaver! There is no real understanding of what the people of Tauranga want. The business unit at Baycourt is quite dysfunctional, currently no manager (replacement not due November), staff leaving, individuals who really are unfit for their position. Just a mighty drain on the City finances.


Sport beats music

Posted on 14-09-2014 14:05 | By cs1983

TCC seems to be going after sports more - as evident by the Black Caps / V8 Boats / Basketball / Black Ferns - and rumours are they want hockey here but where??


Relieved

Posted on 14-09-2014 14:44 | By mouldy

Thank goodness there was no venue for the Top Twins


Confused

Posted on 14-09-2014 15:10 | By YOGI BEAR

Pip responded about Baycourt when clearly Layton was talking about TECT Arena, clearly no one out there has bothered to contact any promoters and events happening there. Just typical, of course now that it is buried in Bay venues you are unlikely to see anything different happen going forward either.


Really

Posted on 14-09-2014 16:35 | By Bop man

The top twins, seekers, hollies how about a few more modern acts like shi had, devil skin anyone from this century. And why with all these facilities why do the bands continue to play in some dodgy park next to some low life bar at the mount. Time to bring back the sound shell a and lets get some life in Tauranga we are not all retired and waiting for God.


Really?

Posted on 14-09-2014 18:05 | By A

If anyone hasn't noticed most colleges have some sort of large event centre or theatre. People need to use some common sense and ask around not go to the "well known" places as they are usually are booked out.


tyhethe goddamn supermarket

Posted on 14-09-2014 20:15 | By Ross01

nobody wants it in Bureta and countdown does absolutely nothing in the way of support or sponsorships in this city Perhaps they could make it accoustic friendly and donate to the city as its newest venue


missed oppertunities

Posted on 15-09-2014 09:22 | By JAF

When is TCC going to recognise the great oppertunity for tauranga to use TECT arena and Baycourt as a major music venue, we have a mini Vector Arena and Mt smart Stadium side by side. Draw the Aucklanders, Hamiltonians etc here for events and the spin off for the city would be significant. Get your act together TCC Venues!!!!


PEARL JAM!!!!!!!

Posted on 15-09-2014 09:25 | By Sambo Returns

The Topp Twins and the Seekers???? give me strength.


Bay AV (TCC)

Posted on 15-09-2014 10:58 | By justintimms

Thats not the worst of it for us and our work, We have the TCC Av company under cutting for events and sales with a rate payer! How is it fair they take work from us to run at a loss and then we help cop the bill with our rates!


Don't panic....

Posted on 15-09-2014 19:36 | By groutby

If it is left to Council and radical support groups, we will have a taxpayer funded white elephant (another one!) in the form of a Museum..that will bring the crowds flocking !...who needs shows that the masses are willing to pay for,lets go for the wants of the few at 'our" expense..rather than events that economically actually bring wealth to the City !


Bypass

Posted on 16-09-2014 14:06 | By Groj

I heard a comment that one of the reasons was venue size and ticket sales. It appears the issue here is that the general Tauranga public are not prepared to pay the costs associated with international acts and that it makes it unviable for promoters to secure the funding to do so. Billy Connely would have been around $125 to $150 a ticket. Apparently too expensive for $10 Tauranga.


@ justintimms

Posted on 21-09-2014 15:12 | By YOGI BEAR

That is the truth of it, how can you run at half the cost? No one can compete here. Ratepayers are subsidizing the costs and nothing actually happens as it takes private enterprises drive to make it happen successfully.


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