“Money grabbing,” “we might as well hand over our whole pay cheque”, “disgusting”.
Comments by locals to Stuff sum up the collective anger of Tauranga in response to two more ‘user pays’ concepts revealed last week by Council - congestion charges, and footpath fees for outside tables at cafés and restaurants.
The timing of the two plans has shocked businesses and residents who have recently been hit by a raft of council projects that have killed business and brought the city to a halt, making the city known for the worst traffic in Aotearoa. Years of construction in the city centre and main street has left it a ghost town, with dead vibes.
Only last month there were discussions to introduce paid parking at Mt Maunganui, which locals said would kill the summer tourism hotspot.
Now, with the congestion charges mooted, residents have had a guts full.
“What are they going to do next, charge us for the air we breathe? People have had enough. It’s time to stand up to the Commissioners,” says Mags Palmer, owner of popular Mt Fish and Chip shop, Mags.
Tauranga Council is asking for community feedback on a concept for congestion charging in Tauranga and locals Stuff spoke to are strongly against it. Photo: Stuff.
There’s concern that council will not listen to locals, pointing to Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown who last week said community consultation over Auckland congestion charges is “bollocks” and “a waste of time”.
“They don’t care. They don’t listen to our people. The commissioners get huge salaries, and want to take more of our hard-earned money to build shit we don’t need – like huge cycle lanes that no one uses. Or a big greenspace instead of a carpark that we actually need. Guess what – no one’s going to go to the greenspace because now there’s nowhere to park,” says Palmer.
Tauranga City Council Commission, from left, Shadrach Rolleston, Bill Wasley, Anne Tolley and Stephen Selwood. Tauranga commissioners. Photo: John Borren/SunLive.
The non-elected Commissioners are paid $1500 per day, with Chair Anne Tolley at $1800, with council responsible for paying them. In addition they’re allowed to claim for travel, meals, accommodation and other expenses.
Mark Lucero, owner of Mount Pizza Library, says the plans are another “money grab” by council.
“They should look at their own operations and cut costs instead of taking more and more of our money. People are already stretched – people are on such tight budgets they can’t afford to eat out. Many have big mortgage increases – and now this, which would cost them even just to get to work. And $6 a round trip to go to the beach – something that’s always been at least free – this is not what New Zealand stands for.”
Harris Williams, Managing Director at Wisp Marketing on Cameron Road – which has been plagued all year by non-stop construction, says it's “complete crock”.
“It’s the hypocrisy of it that people are outraged about. The congestion is all of council’s own making. Every action council has taken in terms of infrastructure has been so poorly managed and executed, not to mention going millions over budget. This is all ratepayer money, and now they have the audacity to say, well, congestion is getting worse, so we are going to charge you, failing to mention that it was them who caused it.”
The timing is bad, he says.
“There’s a cost of living crisis, and they’re piling more financial pressure on people.
“The city has been poorly managed both fiscally and at management level. Now they want ratepayers and residents to pay the price for their own incompetency.”
Under the proposed new charges, Williams roughly calculates that it could cost a person $7000 a year to work full time in the city centre – depending where they travel from.
“It’s completely ridiculous.”
Managing Director, Wisp Marketing, Harris Williams said the idea was “ridiculous”. Photo: Stuff.
Former Tauranga councillor Murray Guy agrees.
“A deviant and devious strategy to create the congestion and then charge their victims for the privilege.”
In response to Stuff’s questions, Commissioner Sellwood says the congestion charges – which the council has named Smart Trip – is at concept stage.
“We’re asking the community for feedback to tell us whether we should look at this more closely... a change in legislation would be required to enable the introduction of road pricing,” he says.
Asked about timing given pressure on people’s budgets, Sellwood says doing nothing will be worse.
“Current levels of congestion will only get worse, with all of the costs that would involve for individuals and businesses and the resulting impacts on carbon emissions, sustainability and lifestyle.”
In the plan, pricing will change based on time of day and where people accessed the road network.
A peak charge has been suggested of $2 for light vehicles, then an additional 15c per kilometre. A heavy vehicle would pay $5 to access the road, then 38c per kilometre.
It could mean a round trip from Tauranga to Mount Beach could cost $6. A truck travelling to the Port of Tauranga would cost $15 one way.
With these congestion prices, council could earn $88 million in net revenue a year by 2035 and that would increase to $158m by 2048.
In a recent AA survey of 4000 members, 84 per cent are strongly opposed to the concept, and just 5.4 per cent in favour.
Ash Gee, owner of popular cocktail bar and restaurant, Miss Gee's, and chair of Downtown Tauranga business association. Photo: Stuff.
Council consultation over charges for outside tables is also getting little support from businesses.
Business association chair and restaurant owner Ash Gee says if council chose to charge a price per table, then hospitality businesses may look to reduce outside tables, but that would affect “vibrancy” in a summer hotspot.
“Due to the current economic climate, any additional costs will be passed onto customers.”
Claudia West of Mount Business Association says it disagrees with the introduction of footpath charges.
“Businesses are already paying extremely high commercial rates for their location, which we continue to see increased...
”If high user rates were charged to businesses, then it would put them off using the space. They may have to change how they operate or pass this cost on to the customer. This would then have a negative impact on visitors coming to the Mount.”
28 comments
Non-Elected Got to Go
Posted on 21-11-2023 07:04 | By Thats Nice
Ok, all of the above is 100% spot on but now what? These muppets have and are continuing to ruin Tauranga cbd and now they're eyeing up the Mount. $1500 a day is quite impressive salary.
Elected council first
Posted on 21-11-2023 07:55 | By Angels
This farce of a council must end. They have destroyed our roading , are massive spenders on everything. When the rich run things they forget what the ordinary people can afford as they have no concerns.
This was another of mauhuta great legacy of appointing them and destroying our city. It was always a blue city and the red are making us pay for that.
This MUST stop.
WE DEMAND CHANGE
Posted on 21-11-2023 08:47 | By an_alias
Yeah be nice if we could have a say in how OUR MONEY gets spent and committed.
How about a budget guys like the rest of the world rather than the MUPPET WORLD YOU LIVE IN.
We need to look at HOW this ALL got PUSHED into place. We have a failed democracy and it seems the Ombudsman and other avenues have failed US.
We need legislation in place to stop this happening again. We should ALWAYS have a say in how TAXES are set and NOT the UN-ELECTED !!!!!!
Get Real
Posted on 21-11-2023 08:49 | By Captain Obvious
At this stage, I'm doubtful they could even run a bath.
Grrr
Posted on 21-11-2023 09:11 | By Howbradseesit
Over the last 15 years TCC have allowed and encouraged our city to grow exponentially to the point we are bursting at the seams and our infrastructure is not fit. We have two, soon to be three of NZ's toll roads and now TCC want to charge us to use the standard roads. This is disappointing and disgusting. Our town will soon be priced out of reach for many even more than it is. TCC no longer works for the people, we work for them. I applaud Mags and her suggestion to stand up against the commissioners and council. The people of Tauranga citizens should refuse to pay rates as long as these people continue to destroy our city.
In the meantime, please everyone have your views about the proposals known to TCC by using the copied link below.
https://letstalk.tauranga.govt.nz/projects/long-term-plan-2024-34
What A Bloody Cheek
Posted on 21-11-2023 09:27 | By Yadick
How dare they cause absolute nayhem then have the audacity to consider charging us for it. Then tell us that congestion is only going to get worse - aren't you bloody sorting that with all these roadworks we're paying for? Or is that just short term fix? Sellwood the other day had the cheek to refer to it as 'our city' - hey Commissioners - it's NOT your city and it's past time gor you to get out. The majority of Tauranga are fed up with you, had an absolute guts full of your destruction. You were supposed to be the brains behind sorting out the years of seat warmers and 'I ams'. Instead you're sending Tauranga to hell and laughing all the way. Halve your extortionate pay, would you still be here - NO because YOU DON'T CARE.
Time To Call Time
Posted on 21-11-2023 09:34 | By Yadick
It's time for Tauranga to stand up to you extortionists. It's time for us to stand united and drive you out of town before you reek any more havoc and chaos on what is left of our city and our pay packets.
Sam Uffindell, stand up and do something, get the band wagon rolling, PLEASE.
It is time to call time. Enough is enough.
Pure shit!!
Posted on 21-11-2023 09:48 | By The Professor
Okay - so we will all adjust our habits. If the congestion charge is based on time, we will all adjust to a start at 10 and finish at 7 so the congestion will simply shift in time. Or if the charges are based on route, people will use rat runs and make residential streets more dangerous. The arseholes need to be moved out of TCC - they are completely clueless!! They completely fail to understand that the more houses they approve for building the more the population will increase and the more vehicles we will see in our region. We need more lanes......more roads......end of! People of Tauranga - stand up and fight.....we need to start protesting to say we have had enough. Start by blocking access to TCC so the clowns can't get into the office to come up with further idiotic ideas.
The council are not for us
Posted on 21-11-2023 10:19 | By Tga council are full of it
This is bullshit targeting people who have to go to work 8-5 how do we fight this fake council this will cost a working family an average of $3640 per year
The council needs to be run by business owners
Posted on 21-11-2023 10:33 | By Jono_
This plan is preposterous, it is punishing locals. I can only assume it is proposed to stifle growth in Tauranga / Mount Maunganui for some reason, no business will be better off from such a ludicrous idea.
There has to be some type of agenda going on here; getting rid of infrastructure imperative for business' to recover from closures, restricting easy access to central areas and now proposing to extort money to completely stop growth in a city that is already dying.
Are these 'councilors' on the take? (not including our rate money lining their pockets).
The council should be made up of business owners; Office, Retail, Hospitality and established business' related to law / economics. These are the people who keep the area running, they have a vested interest in the town running and thriving.
Civic amenities to blame
Posted on 21-11-2023 10:40 | By Let's get real
We're being forced to agree to the construction of two museums (Gate Pa and Willow Street) a new library and other nonsensical community edifices to the glory of council autocratic power and we're surprised to discover how they intend to hide the additional costs to ratepayers without showing it on the rates demands... Empty or seldom used public facilities is not what we need, but BOY, doesn't it look good for our city partnership companies bottom line. A glance at the list of businesses that are signed up as partner organisations, will surely illuminate the discussions around "consultation" as far as development and maintenance of council empire building is concerned. Rates increase by stealth.
Brilliant
Posted on 21-11-2023 12:38 | By Paul W2
Brilliant congestion charging. Charging us for the congestion that these commissars have created with their endless road works and vanity roading projects .
Tauranga smallest city to implement congestion charging?
Posted on 21-11-2023 12:44 | By jed
Would Tauranga be the smallest city in the world with congestion charging?
I am completely opposed to what Tolley has been doing to our city, she doesn't even live here and one of the commissioners lives in the South Island.
These people should be forced to live in the cities they are ruining!
Sort Public Transport first
Posted on 21-11-2023 12:54 | By Macolnz
The idea of a congestion fee does not make sense when the bus system is poor to bad and needs to be reviewed to connect all of Tauranga. Get public feedback on the buses before a congestion fee. all about priorities. The VBD is dead anyway not to mention that the Cameron Road works have kill lots of business. My preference is go to the crossing not the CBD. Plenty of parking and no cost.
RIP Tauranga
Posted on 21-11-2023 13:00 | By andr3wr89
I was born and bred in Tauranga but it was near impossible to buy a first home and still have a life. Moved to Christchurch 2 years ago and have now achieved that dream and got on the property ladder. The plan was to eventually move back to Tauranga one day but that seems like a laugh now after reading and seeing these non elected USSR nutjobs completely ruin the city I loved and called home growing up.
A lot of brave talk...
Posted on 21-11-2023 13:53 | By morepork
... but the realization is starting to bite, that there is NOTHING we can do. These muppets are not ANSWERABLE and they are enjoying the gravy train they have created. Maybe a class action for reckless disregard for the people of Tauranga and repetitive instances of incompetence costing millions, might be brought, but there is no guarantee that it would succeed. They dug themselves a hole with grandiose schemes that were simply vanity projects ($300 million to "revive" the CBD...) that nobody (apart from themselves) wanted, and, by the time they realized it, it was too late to do anything about it. So they have become desperate to garner revenue from ANY source they can, including taxing footpaths and charging people for using cars. A wise Commissioner would see the storm clouds gathering, resign (it is the right thing to do...), and take the money and run.
How to kill a City
Posted on 21-11-2023 13:58 | By Bourney
Mahuta has a lot to answer for the trail of wreckage, expense and mindless spending has to stop and dates be settled for a set of Councillors who can focus solely on existing infrastructure. There are only so many ratepayers the rest are renting and do not directly pay rate demands, so where on earth do THe Commissioners think the funding is going to come from? Soon there will be a mass exodus as folks will no longer be able to afford to live here not even on a meager budget. Does Selwood understand that this is inflationary, it's going to add to costs, costs in business at ports, and in general deliveries around town at a time when people are already struggling? all this will be recovered from customers with higher prices. I would urge ratepayers to contact their MPs and state clearly we aint paying anymore.
We need serious legal options.
Posted on 21-11-2023 14:09 | By morepork
It is not the nature of Kiwis to pick up a pitchfork or a shotgun and form a mob but the levels of frustration in Tauranga are approaching that. If this was a "normal" dispute you had with someone, and they were not amenable to discuss or seek a fair solution, you would probably call your lawyer. I believe it has come to that, and the time for talking is pretty much over. The only good thing about banging your head against a wall, is that it's nice when you stop... We need to explore legal options for the removal of this farce of a Commission, and the restoration of proper democracy for our City. I'm hopeful that some of the legal profession are reading Sun Live and starting to think about what can be done. The new Government should also be supporting their removal. The Commission MUST go!
There is so much
Posted on 21-11-2023 14:35 | By nerak
I could add, but have to say I fully agree with the above comments. So how do we, the poorer by the day ratepayers, get rid of the rot at council? Petition Sam Uffindell? We simply cannot afford any more of the crap we are being dished up almost daily. If 4 bums hit seats at the same time, that's $6300 in a day. A year..? For people who don't belong on those seats. I wonder if any of the 4 ever try to negotiate Cameron Road. How do they get on with the bone crunching potholes? Ended up getting treatment when my back suffered on one. My last comment wasn't printed. I suggested they just go, far far away and never return. They never were wanted.
Nirvana
Posted on 21-11-2023 17:38 | By Duegatti
Harris Williams has nailed it.
But don't forget a legislation change will be required and we have 2 coalition parties to put a rocket up the "do nothing" Nats. So, don't panic yet.
As for bagging the Commissioners, they are simply following an ideology being forced on all councils. Don't tell me any elected council would be different.
What we need to know at the next election is not only what the candidates stand for, but who they have in support.
ex Aucklander
Posted on 21-11-2023 20:10 | By Andrew Knowles
As a local, for 20 years, my opinion is that congestion charging is a great idea. It will make people think, which is one of those things most do not do at the moment. Why on earth do people buy in the far side of the city, and expect to work or shop in the other extreme?. They have caused the problem, why do they not expect to pay for it?
Ridiculous
Posted on 21-11-2023 21:44 | By Balkans
Honestly the egos these councillors have, are they trying to push out low to middle income families and turn this into a wealthy only town? People are starving, and homeless!! Someone is getting very rich from all the roadworks, unnecessary traffic lights etc, maybe we need to start protesting outside council to get the message across!!
Against the grain
Posted on 22-11-2023 06:37 | By AJSommerville
I will go against the grain and say I support this.
Surely those using the roads the most and clogging them up the most should pay for them and this is a good way to do it.
People have spoken
Posted on 22-11-2023 09:21 | By Naysay
We are your shareholders how about listening to them. Governance , transparency and essential board skills lacking here.
Don't pay rates
Posted on 22-11-2023 10:03 | By Corubakid
So what are we going to do about it? What can we do about it? We pay them "exorbitant" salaries to work for us!! Do we/can we just refuse to pay our "exorbitant" rates?
We all ready pau for the roads
Posted on 22-11-2023 12:28 | By Tga council are full of it
AJSommerville we all ready pay for these roads with income tax, gst, rates, road user charge, and fuel tax , do want people who work 8-5 keeping this tow running to suffer more
@ AjSommerville - Agree
Posted on 22-11-2023 21:18 | By Yadick
Totally agree with you that those that cause the congestion should pay for it.
Those that have caused the congestion are the Commissioners. Utter total chaos, THEY NEED TO PAY. The congestion, mayhem and chaos they have and continue to cause is ludicrous, unthoughtful and utterly ridiculous. They and the councils before them have SO MUCH to answer for.
There is only one way for Tauranga to move forward and that is to stand united and get these Mahuta Muppets out of OUR city.
Sam Uffindell, stand up and help. This is your city too and we voted for you in trust. HELP US SAVE OUR CITY.
@Yaddick
Posted on 23-11-2023 11:09 | By Howbradseesit
Yes, calling on Sam Uffindell to step in on behalf of your electorate - lets hear your voice on this matter.
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